How can a jailer prevent the Forge Cleric's Artisan's Blessing from being used?
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I'm currently DMing a game where one of the players is playing as a Forge Cleric. As part of the story and due to some of their actions, the party is likely going to be put in jail next session. I'm wondering if there's any way to prevent the Forge Domain cleric from simply using their Artisan's Blessing Channel Divinity option (XGtE, p. 19) to escape.
Normally, I'd prevent the cleric from coming in contact with any metal in jail, but that's not ideal for my campaign/setting. This player is also a stickler for the rules, so any RAW solution would be especially good. Also, this jail is run by wealthy individuals, so expensive/rare solutions are fine.
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I'm currently DMing a game where one of the players is playing as a Forge Cleric. As part of the story and due to some of their actions, the party is likely going to be put in jail next session. I'm wondering if there's any way to prevent the Forge Domain cleric from simply using their Artisan's Blessing Channel Divinity option (XGtE, p. 19) to escape.
Normally, I'd prevent the cleric from coming in contact with any metal in jail, but that's not ideal for my campaign/setting. This player is also a stickler for the rules, so any RAW solution would be especially good. Also, this jail is run by wealthy individuals, so expensive/rare solutions are fine.
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Related: How do I keep spellcasters from casting while in jail?
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– Purple Monkey
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I looked at that earlier, though Artisan's Blessing says nothing about needing to see anything, and I'm unclear on if any spells can interfere with Channel Divinity
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– Pachinko
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What do you think a cleric could create using this ability that would help them escape?
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I'm currently DMing a game where one of the players is playing as a Forge Cleric. As part of the story and due to some of their actions, the party is likely going to be put in jail next session. I'm wondering if there's any way to prevent the Forge Domain cleric from simply using their Artisan's Blessing Channel Divinity option (XGtE, p. 19) to escape.
Normally, I'd prevent the cleric from coming in contact with any metal in jail, but that's not ideal for my campaign/setting. This player is also a stickler for the rules, so any RAW solution would be especially good. Also, this jail is run by wealthy individuals, so expensive/rare solutions are fine.
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I'm currently DMing a game where one of the players is playing as a Forge Cleric. As part of the story and due to some of their actions, the party is likely going to be put in jail next session. I'm wondering if there's any way to prevent the Forge Domain cleric from simply using their Artisan's Blessing Channel Divinity option (XGtE, p. 19) to escape.
Normally, I'd prevent the cleric from coming in contact with any metal in jail, but that's not ideal for my campaign/setting. This player is also a stickler for the rules, so any RAW solution would be especially good. Also, this jail is run by wealthy individuals, so expensive/rare solutions are fine.
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– V2Blast
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Related: How do I keep spellcasters from casting while in jail?
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– Purple Monkey
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I looked at that earlier, though Artisan's Blessing says nothing about needing to see anything, and I'm unclear on if any spells can interfere with Channel Divinity
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– Pachinko
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What do you think a cleric could create using this ability that would help them escape?
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Related: How do I keep spellcasters from casting while in jail?
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– Purple Monkey
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I looked at that earlier, though Artisan's Blessing says nothing about needing to see anything, and I'm unclear on if any spells can interfere with Channel Divinity
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What do you think a cleric could create using this ability that would help them escape?
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@AllanMills Please see this meta for why your comment was removed. Thanks!
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Related: How do I keep spellcasters from casting while in jail?
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– Purple Monkey
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Related: How do I keep spellcasters from casting while in jail?
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– Purple Monkey
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I looked at that earlier, though Artisan's Blessing says nothing about needing to see anything, and I'm unclear on if any spells can interfere with Channel Divinity
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– Pachinko
3 hours ago
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I looked at that earlier, though Artisan's Blessing says nothing about needing to see anything, and I'm unclear on if any spells can interfere with Channel Divinity
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– Pachinko
3 hours ago
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What do you think a cleric could create using this ability that would help them escape?
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– Ryan Thompson
2 hours ago
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What do you think a cleric could create using this ability that would help them escape?
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– Ryan Thompson
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Antimagic
Channel Divinity is magic:
At 2nd level, you gain the ability to channel divine energy directly from your deity, using that energy to fuel magical effects.
This doesn't have to be the Antimagic Field spell - smart jailers build their jails on natural antimagic areas.
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Thanks, that's definitely a good idea! If you also happen to know of any more mobile method that would also be nice!
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The cleric can't just transform their cell door to escape
Part of the requirement of the Artisan's Blessing is (emphasis mine):
As part of this ritual, you must lay out metal, which can include coins, with a value equal to the creation.
The requirement to lay out the metal implies that the metal to be transformed using this feature cannot be part of a structure or other large object. Even if the cell door is made of metal, the cleric is not capable of "laying out" this metal in the manner required by the ritual. Similarly, it wouldn't make sense that the cleric could disable a trebuchet made mostly of wood by transforming the metal hinge into something else.
If the cleric could get their cell door off its hinges and lay it down on the floor of their cell, then they could probably transform it, but at that point they have already escaped their cell.
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The antimagic field spell or (although probably not what you are looking for) the sleep spell. Another spell option is imprisonment.
If you want to make this spell portable, being the DM, you are allowed to create your own magical items (see page 284 of the Dungeon Master's Guide), so you could create something like an orb that allows the jailer to cast the spell, or that creates a constant antimagic field around it or something. As the DM, that is all up to you. Hope this helps.
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Thanks! I hadn't heard of the Imprisonment spell, and it seems like another good solution to have at my disposal. I think I'm probably going to use a mixture of Sleep, and some sort of Antimagic Field magic item. Thanks again!
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Antimagic
Channel Divinity is magic:
At 2nd level, you gain the ability to channel divine energy directly from your deity, using that energy to fuel magical effects.
This doesn't have to be the Antimagic Field spell - smart jailers build their jails on natural antimagic areas.
answered 3 hours ago
Dale MDale M
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Thanks, that's definitely a good idea! If you also happen to know of any more mobile method that would also be nice!
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– Pachinko
3 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Antimagic
Channel Divinity is magic:
At 2nd level, you gain the ability to channel divine energy directly from your deity, using that energy to fuel magical effects.
This doesn't have to be the Antimagic Field spell - smart jailers build their jails on natural antimagic areas.
answered 3 hours ago
Dale MDale M
110k23282486
$endgroup$
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Thanks, that's definitely a good idea! If you also happen to know of any more mobile method that would also be nice!
$endgroup$
– Pachinko
3 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Antimagic
Channel Divinity is magic:
At 2nd level, you gain the ability to channel divine energy directly from your deity, using that energy to fuel magical effects.
This doesn't have to be the Antimagic Field spell - smart jailers build their jails on natural antimagic areas.
answered 3 hours ago
Dale MDale M
110k23282486
$endgroup$
Antimagic
Channel Divinity is magic:
At 2nd level, you gain the ability to channel divine energy directly from your deity, using that energy to fuel magical effects.
This doesn't have to be the Antimagic Field spell - smart jailers build their jails on natural antimagic areas.
answered 3 hours ago
Dale MDale M
110k23282486
answered 3 hours ago
Dale MDale M
110k23282486
answered 3 hours ago
Dale MDale M
110k23282486
answered 3 hours ago
Dale MDale M
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Thanks, that's definitely a good idea! If you also happen to know of any more mobile method that would also be nice!
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– Pachinko
3 hours ago
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Thanks, that's definitely a good idea! If you also happen to know of any more mobile method that would also be nice!
$endgroup$
– Pachinko
3 hours ago
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Thanks, that's definitely a good idea! If you also happen to know of any more mobile method that would also be nice!
$endgroup$
– Pachinko
3 hours ago
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Thanks, that's definitely a good idea! If you also happen to know of any more mobile method that would also be nice!
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– Pachinko
3 hours ago
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The cleric can't just transform their cell door to escape
Part of the requirement of the Artisan's Blessing is (emphasis mine):
As part of this ritual, you must lay out metal, which can include coins, with a value equal to the creation.
The requirement to lay out the metal implies that the metal to be transformed using this feature cannot be part of a structure or other large object. Even if the cell door is made of metal, the cleric is not capable of "laying out" this metal in the manner required by the ritual. Similarly, it wouldn't make sense that the cleric could disable a trebuchet made mostly of wood by transforming the metal hinge into something else.
If the cleric could get their cell door off its hinges and lay it down on the floor of their cell, then they could probably transform it, but at that point they have already escaped their cell.
answered 1 hour ago
Ryan ThompsonRyan Thompson
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The cleric can't just transform their cell door to escape
Part of the requirement of the Artisan's Blessing is (emphasis mine):
As part of this ritual, you must lay out metal, which can include coins, with a value equal to the creation.
The requirement to lay out the metal implies that the metal to be transformed using this feature cannot be part of a structure or other large object. Even if the cell door is made of metal, the cleric is not capable of "laying out" this metal in the manner required by the ritual. Similarly, it wouldn't make sense that the cleric could disable a trebuchet made mostly of wood by transforming the metal hinge into something else.
If the cleric could get their cell door off its hinges and lay it down on the floor of their cell, then they could probably transform it, but at that point they have already escaped their cell.
answered 1 hour ago
Ryan ThompsonRyan Thompson
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The cleric can't just transform their cell door to escape
Part of the requirement of the Artisan's Blessing is (emphasis mine):
As part of this ritual, you must lay out metal, which can include coins, with a value equal to the creation.
The requirement to lay out the metal implies that the metal to be transformed using this feature cannot be part of a structure or other large object. Even if the cell door is made of metal, the cleric is not capable of "laying out" this metal in the manner required by the ritual. Similarly, it wouldn't make sense that the cleric could disable a trebuchet made mostly of wood by transforming the metal hinge into something else.
If the cleric could get their cell door off its hinges and lay it down on the floor of their cell, then they could probably transform it, but at that point they have already escaped their cell.
answered 1 hour ago
Ryan ThompsonRyan Thompson
10.6k23280
$endgroup$
The cleric can't just transform their cell door to escape
Part of the requirement of the Artisan's Blessing is (emphasis mine):
As part of this ritual, you must lay out metal, which can include coins, with a value equal to the creation.
The requirement to lay out the metal implies that the metal to be transformed using this feature cannot be part of a structure or other large object. Even if the cell door is made of metal, the cleric is not capable of "laying out" this metal in the manner required by the ritual. Similarly, it wouldn't make sense that the cleric could disable a trebuchet made mostly of wood by transforming the metal hinge into something else.
If the cleric could get their cell door off its hinges and lay it down on the floor of their cell, then they could probably transform it, but at that point they have already escaped their cell.
answered 1 hour ago
Ryan ThompsonRyan Thompson
10.6k23280
answered 1 hour ago
Ryan ThompsonRyan Thompson
10.6k23280
answered 1 hour ago
Ryan ThompsonRyan Thompson
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answered 1 hour ago
Ryan ThompsonRyan Thompson
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The antimagic field spell or (although probably not what you are looking for) the sleep spell. Another spell option is imprisonment.
If you want to make this spell portable, being the DM, you are allowed to create your own magical items (see page 284 of the Dungeon Master's Guide), so you could create something like an orb that allows the jailer to cast the spell, or that creates a constant antimagic field around it or something. As the DM, that is all up to you. Hope this helps.
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Thanks! I hadn't heard of the Imprisonment spell, and it seems like another good solution to have at my disposal. I think I'm probably going to use a mixture of Sleep, and some sort of Antimagic Field magic item. Thanks again!
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– Pachinko
2 hours ago
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The antimagic field spell or (although probably not what you are looking for) the sleep spell. Another spell option is imprisonment.
If you want to make this spell portable, being the DM, you are allowed to create your own magical items (see page 284 of the Dungeon Master's Guide), so you could create something like an orb that allows the jailer to cast the spell, or that creates a constant antimagic field around it or something. As the DM, that is all up to you. Hope this helps.
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Thanks! I hadn't heard of the Imprisonment spell, and it seems like another good solution to have at my disposal. I think I'm probably going to use a mixture of Sleep, and some sort of Antimagic Field magic item. Thanks again!
$endgroup$
– Pachinko
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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The antimagic field spell or (although probably not what you are looking for) the sleep spell. Another spell option is imprisonment.
If you want to make this spell portable, being the DM, you are allowed to create your own magical items (see page 284 of the Dungeon Master's Guide), so you could create something like an orb that allows the jailer to cast the spell, or that creates a constant antimagic field around it or something. As the DM, that is all up to you. Hope this helps.
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The antimagic field spell or (although probably not what you are looking for) the sleep spell. Another spell option is imprisonment.
If you want to make this spell portable, being the DM, you are allowed to create your own magical items (see page 284 of the Dungeon Master's Guide), so you could create something like an orb that allows the jailer to cast the spell, or that creates a constant antimagic field around it or something. As the DM, that is all up to you. Hope this helps.
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Thanks! I hadn't heard of the Imprisonment spell, and it seems like another good solution to have at my disposal. I think I'm probably going to use a mixture of Sleep, and some sort of Antimagic Field magic item. Thanks again!
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– Pachinko
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Thanks! I hadn't heard of the Imprisonment spell, and it seems like another good solution to have at my disposal. I think I'm probably going to use a mixture of Sleep, and some sort of Antimagic Field magic item. Thanks again!
$endgroup$
– Pachinko
2 hours ago
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Thanks! I hadn't heard of the Imprisonment spell, and it seems like another good solution to have at my disposal. I think I'm probably going to use a mixture of Sleep, and some sort of Antimagic Field magic item. Thanks again!
$endgroup$
– Pachinko
2 hours ago
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Thanks! I hadn't heard of the Imprisonment spell, and it seems like another good solution to have at my disposal. I think I'm probably going to use a mixture of Sleep, and some sort of Antimagic Field magic item. Thanks again!
$endgroup$
– Pachinko
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– V2Blast
3 hours ago
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Related: How do I keep spellcasters from casting while in jail?
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– Purple Monkey
3 hours ago
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I looked at that earlier, though Artisan's Blessing says nothing about needing to see anything, and I'm unclear on if any spells can interfere with Channel Divinity
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– Pachinko
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What do you think a cleric could create using this ability that would help them escape?
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– Ryan Thompson
2 hours ago
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@AllanMills Please see this meta for why your comment was removed. Thanks!
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– doppelgreener♦
1 hour ago