What is the status of children of a person who is British by descent?
My son, born in Rome, is British by descent.
He has a newborn in China who he wants to register as British. He has been declined a passport for her as you cannot apparently pass on British citizenship to the child of one who is British by descent.
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My son, born in Rome, is British by descent.
He has a newborn in China who he wants to register as British. He has been declined a passport for her as you cannot apparently pass on British citizenship to the child of one who is British by descent.
passports uk-citizens
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@Calchas There's clearly a question here — did you read the title?
– David
1 hour ago
@David Good point, didn't see it. I still vote to close as not a travel question.
– Calchas
8 mins ago
@Calchas Yes, I agree the question is not strictly about travel. But citizenship is intimately and necessarily connected to one's ability to travel. There's no "citizenship" SE site, and I think this subject is close enough to leave open here.
– David
20 secs ago
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My son, born in Rome, is British by descent.
He has a newborn in China who he wants to register as British. He has been declined a passport for her as you cannot apparently pass on British citizenship to the child of one who is British by descent.
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My son, born in Rome, is British by descent.
He has a newborn in China who he wants to register as British. He has been declined a passport for her as you cannot apparently pass on British citizenship to the child of one who is British by descent.
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passports uk-citizens
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@Calchas There's clearly a question here — did you read the title?
– David
1 hour ago
@David Good point, didn't see it. I still vote to close as not a travel question.
– Calchas
8 mins ago
@Calchas Yes, I agree the question is not strictly about travel. But citizenship is intimately and necessarily connected to one's ability to travel. There's no "citizenship" SE site, and I think this subject is close enough to leave open here.
– David
20 secs ago
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@Calchas There's clearly a question here — did you read the title?
– David
1 hour ago
@David Good point, didn't see it. I still vote to close as not a travel question.
– Calchas
8 mins ago
@Calchas Yes, I agree the question is not strictly about travel. But citizenship is intimately and necessarily connected to one's ability to travel. There's no "citizenship" SE site, and I think this subject is close enough to leave open here.
– David
20 secs ago
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@Calchas There's clearly a question here — did you read the title?
– David
1 hour ago
@Calchas There's clearly a question here — did you read the title?
– David
1 hour ago
@David Good point, didn't see it. I still vote to close as not a travel question.
– Calchas
8 mins ago
@David Good point, didn't see it. I still vote to close as not a travel question.
– Calchas
8 mins ago
@Calchas Yes, I agree the question is not strictly about travel. But citizenship is intimately and necessarily connected to one's ability to travel. There's no "citizenship" SE site, and I think this subject is close enough to leave open here.
– David
20 secs ago
@Calchas Yes, I agree the question is not strictly about travel. But citizenship is intimately and necessarily connected to one's ability to travel. There's no "citizenship" SE site, and I think this subject is close enough to leave open here.
– David
20 secs ago
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They're correct. British citizens by descent cannot automatically pass British citizenship to a child born abroad. There are limited circumstances in which such a child can be registered as a British citizen while under 18:
- If your son's parent (the child's grandparent) was a British citizen otherwise than by descent, and your son lived in the UK for some continuous period of 3 years some time in his life before the child's birth, the child can be registered as a British citizen by descent under section 3(2).
- If your son and his wife and his child have all been living in the UK for the last 3 years, the child can be registered as a British citizen otherwise than by descent under section 3(5).
- Under special circumstances, the Home Secretary has the power to register any child under 18 as a British citizen under section 3(1). This is usually for children who are already in the UK and have strong connections to the UK.
answered 1 hour ago
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Is it really necessary for the child's non-British parent to be resident with the British parent and the child under 3(5)? That seems odd. Do you know the reason for that requirement?
– phoog
3 mins ago
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That's absolutely correct. If a person is British citizen by descent, then their children are British citizens not by descent if born in the UK, and not British citizens at all if born outside the UK.
To become British citizen, your son would have to move to the UK with his child and reside there for a long time, then apply to get residency and citizenship like any non-British child might do.
answered 3 hours ago
gnasher729gnasher729
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This is not quite correct, as there is a mechanism for obtaining citizenship that is available to the child of a citizen by descent that is not available to "any non-British child."
– phoog
7 mins ago
add a comment |
You may find this UK government webpage ("Check if you're a British citizen") useful to test your thoughts. It poses questions in order to determine British citizenship.
Better Answers contain actual text and substantive information, so the Answer remains useful if the link disappears. This issue's presentation on the UK website, however, has too many pages and conditions to easily quote.
answered 1 hour ago
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They're correct. British citizens by descent cannot automatically pass British citizenship to a child born abroad. There are limited circumstances in which such a child can be registered as a British citizen while under 18:
- If your son's parent (the child's grandparent) was a British citizen otherwise than by descent, and your son lived in the UK for some continuous period of 3 years some time in his life before the child's birth, the child can be registered as a British citizen by descent under section 3(2).
- If your son and his wife and his child have all been living in the UK for the last 3 years, the child can be registered as a British citizen otherwise than by descent under section 3(5).
- Under special circumstances, the Home Secretary has the power to register any child under 18 as a British citizen under section 3(1). This is usually for children who are already in the UK and have strong connections to the UK.
answered 1 hour ago
user102008user102008
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Is it really necessary for the child's non-British parent to be resident with the British parent and the child under 3(5)? That seems odd. Do you know the reason for that requirement?
– phoog
3 mins ago
add a comment |
They're correct. British citizens by descent cannot automatically pass British citizenship to a child born abroad. There are limited circumstances in which such a child can be registered as a British citizen while under 18:
- If your son's parent (the child's grandparent) was a British citizen otherwise than by descent, and your son lived in the UK for some continuous period of 3 years some time in his life before the child's birth, the child can be registered as a British citizen by descent under section 3(2).
- If your son and his wife and his child have all been living in the UK for the last 3 years, the child can be registered as a British citizen otherwise than by descent under section 3(5).
- Under special circumstances, the Home Secretary has the power to register any child under 18 as a British citizen under section 3(1). This is usually for children who are already in the UK and have strong connections to the UK.
answered 1 hour ago
user102008user102008
11.1k12251
Is it really necessary for the child's non-British parent to be resident with the British parent and the child under 3(5)? That seems odd. Do you know the reason for that requirement?
– phoog
3 mins ago
add a comment |
They're correct. British citizens by descent cannot automatically pass British citizenship to a child born abroad. There are limited circumstances in which such a child can be registered as a British citizen while under 18:
- If your son's parent (the child's grandparent) was a British citizen otherwise than by descent, and your son lived in the UK for some continuous period of 3 years some time in his life before the child's birth, the child can be registered as a British citizen by descent under section 3(2).
- If your son and his wife and his child have all been living in the UK for the last 3 years, the child can be registered as a British citizen otherwise than by descent under section 3(5).
- Under special circumstances, the Home Secretary has the power to register any child under 18 as a British citizen under section 3(1). This is usually for children who are already in the UK and have strong connections to the UK.
answered 1 hour ago
user102008user102008
11.1k12251
They're correct. British citizens by descent cannot automatically pass British citizenship to a child born abroad. There are limited circumstances in which such a child can be registered as a British citizen while under 18:
- If your son's parent (the child's grandparent) was a British citizen otherwise than by descent, and your son lived in the UK for some continuous period of 3 years some time in his life before the child's birth, the child can be registered as a British citizen by descent under section 3(2).
- If your son and his wife and his child have all been living in the UK for the last 3 years, the child can be registered as a British citizen otherwise than by descent under section 3(5).
- Under special circumstances, the Home Secretary has the power to register any child under 18 as a British citizen under section 3(1). This is usually for children who are already in the UK and have strong connections to the UK.
answered 1 hour ago
user102008user102008
11.1k12251
answered 1 hour ago
user102008user102008
11.1k12251
answered 1 hour ago
user102008user102008
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answered 1 hour ago
user102008user102008
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Is it really necessary for the child's non-British parent to be resident with the British parent and the child under 3(5)? That seems odd. Do you know the reason for that requirement?
– phoog
3 mins ago
add a comment |
Is it really necessary for the child's non-British parent to be resident with the British parent and the child under 3(5)? That seems odd. Do you know the reason for that requirement?
– phoog
3 mins ago
Is it really necessary for the child's non-British parent to be resident with the British parent and the child under 3(5)? That seems odd. Do you know the reason for that requirement?
– phoog
3 mins ago
Is it really necessary for the child's non-British parent to be resident with the British parent and the child under 3(5)? That seems odd. Do you know the reason for that requirement?
– phoog
3 mins ago
add a comment |
That's absolutely correct. If a person is British citizen by descent, then their children are British citizens not by descent if born in the UK, and not British citizens at all if born outside the UK.
To become British citizen, your son would have to move to the UK with his child and reside there for a long time, then apply to get residency and citizenship like any non-British child might do.
answered 3 hours ago
gnasher729gnasher729
2,471816
This is not quite correct, as there is a mechanism for obtaining citizenship that is available to the child of a citizen by descent that is not available to "any non-British child."
– phoog
7 mins ago
add a comment |
That's absolutely correct. If a person is British citizen by descent, then their children are British citizens not by descent if born in the UK, and not British citizens at all if born outside the UK.
To become British citizen, your son would have to move to the UK with his child and reside there for a long time, then apply to get residency and citizenship like any non-British child might do.
answered 3 hours ago
gnasher729gnasher729
2,471816
This is not quite correct, as there is a mechanism for obtaining citizenship that is available to the child of a citizen by descent that is not available to "any non-British child."
– phoog
7 mins ago
add a comment |
That's absolutely correct. If a person is British citizen by descent, then their children are British citizens not by descent if born in the UK, and not British citizens at all if born outside the UK.
To become British citizen, your son would have to move to the UK with his child and reside there for a long time, then apply to get residency and citizenship like any non-British child might do.
answered 3 hours ago
gnasher729gnasher729
2,471816
That's absolutely correct. If a person is British citizen by descent, then their children are British citizens not by descent if born in the UK, and not British citizens at all if born outside the UK.
To become British citizen, your son would have to move to the UK with his child and reside there for a long time, then apply to get residency and citizenship like any non-British child might do.
answered 3 hours ago
gnasher729gnasher729
2,471816
answered 3 hours ago
gnasher729gnasher729
2,471816
answered 3 hours ago
gnasher729gnasher729
2,471816
answered 3 hours ago
gnasher729gnasher729
2,471816
2,471816
This is not quite correct, as there is a mechanism for obtaining citizenship that is available to the child of a citizen by descent that is not available to "any non-British child."
– phoog
7 mins ago
add a comment |
This is not quite correct, as there is a mechanism for obtaining citizenship that is available to the child of a citizen by descent that is not available to "any non-British child."
– phoog
7 mins ago
This is not quite correct, as there is a mechanism for obtaining citizenship that is available to the child of a citizen by descent that is not available to "any non-British child."
– phoog
7 mins ago
This is not quite correct, as there is a mechanism for obtaining citizenship that is available to the child of a citizen by descent that is not available to "any non-British child."
– phoog
7 mins ago
add a comment |
You may find this UK government webpage ("Check if you're a British citizen") useful to test your thoughts. It poses questions in order to determine British citizenship.
Better Answers contain actual text and substantive information, so the Answer remains useful if the link disappears. This issue's presentation on the UK website, however, has too many pages and conditions to easily quote.
answered 1 hour ago
DavidDavid
2,3542419
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You may find this UK government webpage ("Check if you're a British citizen") useful to test your thoughts. It poses questions in order to determine British citizenship.
Better Answers contain actual text and substantive information, so the Answer remains useful if the link disappears. This issue's presentation on the UK website, however, has too many pages and conditions to easily quote.
answered 1 hour ago
DavidDavid
2,3542419
add a comment |
You may find this UK government webpage ("Check if you're a British citizen") useful to test your thoughts. It poses questions in order to determine British citizenship.
Better Answers contain actual text and substantive information, so the Answer remains useful if the link disappears. This issue's presentation on the UK website, however, has too many pages and conditions to easily quote.
answered 1 hour ago
DavidDavid
2,3542419
You may find this UK government webpage ("Check if you're a British citizen") useful to test your thoughts. It poses questions in order to determine British citizenship.
Better Answers contain actual text and substantive information, so the Answer remains useful if the link disappears. This issue's presentation on the UK website, however, has too many pages and conditions to easily quote.
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DavidDavid
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@Calchas There's clearly a question here — did you read the title?
– David
1 hour ago
@David Good point, didn't see it. I still vote to close as not a travel question.
– Calchas
8 mins ago
@Calchas Yes, I agree the question is not strictly about travel. But citizenship is intimately and necessarily connected to one's ability to travel. There's no "citizenship" SE site, and I think this subject is close enough to leave open here.
– David
20 secs ago