Use a SP to Archive/Revision related records in several related tables?












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I have a database for an application that has a complicated relational table structure. Is there a good way to create revisions of the data, or archive the data before a user makes changes?



Ideally I would want a stored procedure that would save the state of all the related data when ran, insomuch that when a field is added to any of the related tables, the stored procedure would not miss it.










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    depending on the version of sql server you are .. you can look into change data capture or change tracking. That will help you.

    – Kin
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    Are you talking about structural changes to your database as in DDL changes? Or are you talking about a user updating a particular row, DML?

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    Are you thinking of implementing a temporal database, where each value has a datetime range when it is the effective value, and all past values are also retained?

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I have a database for an application that has a complicated relational table structure. Is there a good way to create revisions of the data, or archive the data before a user makes changes?



Ideally I would want a stored procedure that would save the state of all the related data when ran, insomuch that when a field is added to any of the related tables, the stored procedure would not miss it.










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    depending on the version of sql server you are .. you can look into change data capture or change tracking. That will help you.

    – Kin
    Jan 15 '16 at 21:25






  • 2





    Are you talking about structural changes to your database as in DDL changes? Or are you talking about a user updating a particular row, DML?

    – Zane
    Jan 15 '16 at 21:41






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    Are you thinking of implementing a temporal database, where each value has a datetime range when it is the effective value, and all past values are also retained?

    – Michael Green
    Jan 16 '16 at 7:15














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I have a database for an application that has a complicated relational table structure. Is there a good way to create revisions of the data, or archive the data before a user makes changes?



Ideally I would want a stored procedure that would save the state of all the related data when ran, insomuch that when a field is added to any of the related tables, the stored procedure would not miss it.










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I have a database for an application that has a complicated relational table structure. Is there a good way to create revisions of the data, or archive the data before a user makes changes?



Ideally I would want a stored procedure that would save the state of all the related data when ran, insomuch that when a field is added to any of the related tables, the stored procedure would not miss it.







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    depending on the version of sql server you are .. you can look into change data capture or change tracking. That will help you.

    – Kin
    Jan 15 '16 at 21:25






  • 2





    Are you talking about structural changes to your database as in DDL changes? Or are you talking about a user updating a particular row, DML?

    – Zane
    Jan 15 '16 at 21:41






  • 1





    Are you thinking of implementing a temporal database, where each value has a datetime range when it is the effective value, and all past values are also retained?

    – Michael Green
    Jan 16 '16 at 7:15














  • 1





    depending on the version of sql server you are .. you can look into change data capture or change tracking. That will help you.

    – Kin
    Jan 15 '16 at 21:25






  • 2





    Are you talking about structural changes to your database as in DDL changes? Or are you talking about a user updating a particular row, DML?

    – Zane
    Jan 15 '16 at 21:41






  • 1





    Are you thinking of implementing a temporal database, where each value has a datetime range when it is the effective value, and all past values are also retained?

    – Michael Green
    Jan 16 '16 at 7:15








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depending on the version of sql server you are .. you can look into change data capture or change tracking. That will help you.

– Kin
Jan 15 '16 at 21:25





depending on the version of sql server you are .. you can look into change data capture or change tracking. That will help you.

– Kin
Jan 15 '16 at 21:25




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Are you talking about structural changes to your database as in DDL changes? Or are you talking about a user updating a particular row, DML?

– Zane
Jan 15 '16 at 21:41





Are you talking about structural changes to your database as in DDL changes? Or are you talking about a user updating a particular row, DML?

– Zane
Jan 15 '16 at 21:41




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Are you thinking of implementing a temporal database, where each value has a datetime range when it is the effective value, and all past values are also retained?

– Michael Green
Jan 16 '16 at 7:15





Are you thinking of implementing a temporal database, where each value has a datetime range when it is the effective value, and all past values are also retained?

– Michael Green
Jan 16 '16 at 7:15










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Creating such a stored procedure is probably going to be complex and error prone. That's why there are temporal databases or temporal features in a database. If you really wanted to do this with a stored procedure, you can have a duplicate schema with a version number column added to all tables.



That way, on each write operation, you can first call the stored procedure which does an INSERT INTO.... SELECT using the same WHERE clause as your write operation. The stored procedure is best initiated by the app which runs the stored procedure before the actual write (UPDATE/DELETE) statement.



If you use triggers, it can be very tricky just figuring out which table(s) to host the trigger and making sure you don't get a trigger storm.



Far easier path is to implement something like Temporal tables in SQL Server 2016: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn935015.aspx. Takes a bit of work to setup but it's only somewhat tedious work, not very complex work. If you want to keep this history around for a long time, you can even stretch the temporal history table so you don't have to deal with administration and storage challenges with a massive history table.






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    Creating such a stored procedure is probably going to be complex and error prone. That's why there are temporal databases or temporal features in a database. If you really wanted to do this with a stored procedure, you can have a duplicate schema with a version number column added to all tables.



    That way, on each write operation, you can first call the stored procedure which does an INSERT INTO.... SELECT using the same WHERE clause as your write operation. The stored procedure is best initiated by the app which runs the stored procedure before the actual write (UPDATE/DELETE) statement.



    If you use triggers, it can be very tricky just figuring out which table(s) to host the trigger and making sure you don't get a trigger storm.



    Far easier path is to implement something like Temporal tables in SQL Server 2016: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn935015.aspx. Takes a bit of work to setup but it's only somewhat tedious work, not very complex work. If you want to keep this history around for a long time, you can even stretch the temporal history table so you don't have to deal with administration and storage challenges with a massive history table.






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      Creating such a stored procedure is probably going to be complex and error prone. That's why there are temporal databases or temporal features in a database. If you really wanted to do this with a stored procedure, you can have a duplicate schema with a version number column added to all tables.



      That way, on each write operation, you can first call the stored procedure which does an INSERT INTO.... SELECT using the same WHERE clause as your write operation. The stored procedure is best initiated by the app which runs the stored procedure before the actual write (UPDATE/DELETE) statement.



      If you use triggers, it can be very tricky just figuring out which table(s) to host the trigger and making sure you don't get a trigger storm.



      Far easier path is to implement something like Temporal tables in SQL Server 2016: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn935015.aspx. Takes a bit of work to setup but it's only somewhat tedious work, not very complex work. If you want to keep this history around for a long time, you can even stretch the temporal history table so you don't have to deal with administration and storage challenges with a massive history table.






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        Creating such a stored procedure is probably going to be complex and error prone. That's why there are temporal databases or temporal features in a database. If you really wanted to do this with a stored procedure, you can have a duplicate schema with a version number column added to all tables.



        That way, on each write operation, you can first call the stored procedure which does an INSERT INTO.... SELECT using the same WHERE clause as your write operation. The stored procedure is best initiated by the app which runs the stored procedure before the actual write (UPDATE/DELETE) statement.



        If you use triggers, it can be very tricky just figuring out which table(s) to host the trigger and making sure you don't get a trigger storm.



        Far easier path is to implement something like Temporal tables in SQL Server 2016: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn935015.aspx. Takes a bit of work to setup but it's only somewhat tedious work, not very complex work. If you want to keep this history around for a long time, you can even stretch the temporal history table so you don't have to deal with administration and storage challenges with a massive history table.






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        Creating such a stored procedure is probably going to be complex and error prone. That's why there are temporal databases or temporal features in a database. If you really wanted to do this with a stored procedure, you can have a duplicate schema with a version number column added to all tables.



        That way, on each write operation, you can first call the stored procedure which does an INSERT INTO.... SELECT using the same WHERE clause as your write operation. The stored procedure is best initiated by the app which runs the stored procedure before the actual write (UPDATE/DELETE) statement.



        If you use triggers, it can be very tricky just figuring out which table(s) to host the trigger and making sure you don't get a trigger storm.



        Far easier path is to implement something like Temporal tables in SQL Server 2016: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn935015.aspx. Takes a bit of work to setup but it's only somewhat tedious work, not very complex work. If you want to keep this history around for a long time, you can even stretch the temporal history table so you don't have to deal with administration and storage challenges with a massive history table.







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