Was there a negative response to the video of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dancing?












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There have been several stories in the media about how a video of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dancing has caused conservatives to mock or shame her for it.



News sources where this claim is made:





  1. So when an old video of her as a college student emerged, some of them [conservatives] darn near lost their minds.
    MSNBC




  2. I love how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has turned American politics into a live action Footloose. People dancing!? Oh the horror! Where will it end?
    New York Times




  3. I hear the GOP thinks women dancing are scandalous. -Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    CNN




  4. After several conservative Twitter accounts resurfaced clips from the video this week in an attempt to mock Ocasio-Cortez, supporters rushed to her defense.
    USA Today




  5. Conservatives Try to Shame Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for Dancing Video from College



    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez danced around once in college — and conservatives lost it.
    Now This News




  6. Conservatives Mock Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for College Dancing Video, Everyone Else Thinks it's Adorable
    Newsweek




However, among all these different stories, there has only been one example cited where she was attacked for the dancing video, a tweet from an anonymous twitter account.



Are there notable examples of any prominent conservatives attacking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for the dance? Any evidence of a public upset among common conservatives? Are all of these news stories only based on this one random tweet (in which case is it fair to say that the news stories are false when they claim that conservatives are "losing their minds" over the video)?



An article from Fox News claims the outrage is fabricated:




An old video of now-Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez playfully recreating a dance scene from "The Breakfast Club" was resurfaced anonymously on Twitter last week -- resulting in a slew of misleading stories claiming conservatives were outraged over it, despite virtually no supporting evidence.











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    @Oddthinking Something along the lines of quotes or clips of conservative commentators attacking her. They are easy to find for other times that she has been mocked by conservatives for other things.
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    Closing because it's asking for a non-objective opinion. Furthermore, it attracted a slew of bad/non-referenced answers which we will likely need to delete
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    @Sklivvz What exactly is opinion-based here? Either there exist instances of conservatives criticising Cortez over her dance video, or there don't. I guess there's some subjectivity over who counts as a conservative or over whether any given piece of commentary is critical of her or not, but you can immediately see plenty of less clearly-defined questions on the site's front page right now or at skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions?pagesize=15&sort=votes.
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    @Sklivvz The closure leaves the polemics and individual speculation around, while preventing anyone who actually has some previously-unposted evidence to share from doing so; while I'm not an active member here, that strikes me as a worst-of-both-worlds solution.
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There have been several stories in the media about how a video of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dancing has caused conservatives to mock or shame her for it.



News sources where this claim is made:





  1. So when an old video of her as a college student emerged, some of them [conservatives] darn near lost their minds.
    MSNBC




  2. I love how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has turned American politics into a live action Footloose. People dancing!? Oh the horror! Where will it end?
    New York Times




  3. I hear the GOP thinks women dancing are scandalous. -Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    CNN




  4. After several conservative Twitter accounts resurfaced clips from the video this week in an attempt to mock Ocasio-Cortez, supporters rushed to her defense.
    USA Today




  5. Conservatives Try to Shame Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for Dancing Video from College



    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez danced around once in college — and conservatives lost it.
    Now This News




  6. Conservatives Mock Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for College Dancing Video, Everyone Else Thinks it's Adorable
    Newsweek




However, among all these different stories, there has only been one example cited where she was attacked for the dancing video, a tweet from an anonymous twitter account.



Are there notable examples of any prominent conservatives attacking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for the dance? Any evidence of a public upset among common conservatives? Are all of these news stories only based on this one random tweet (in which case is it fair to say that the news stories are false when they claim that conservatives are "losing their minds" over the video)?



An article from Fox News claims the outrage is fabricated:




An old video of now-Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez playfully recreating a dance scene from "The Breakfast Club" was resurfaced anonymously on Twitter last week -- resulting in a slew of misleading stories claiming conservatives were outraged over it, despite virtually no supporting evidence.











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    @Oddthinking Something along the lines of quotes or clips of conservative commentators attacking her. They are easy to find for other times that she has been mocked by conservatives for other things.
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    @Sklivvz What exactly is opinion-based here? Either there exist instances of conservatives criticising Cortez over her dance video, or there don't. I guess there's some subjectivity over who counts as a conservative or over whether any given piece of commentary is critical of her or not, but you can immediately see plenty of less clearly-defined questions on the site's front page right now or at skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions?pagesize=15&sort=votes.
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    @Sklivvz The closure leaves the polemics and individual speculation around, while preventing anyone who actually has some previously-unposted evidence to share from doing so; while I'm not an active member here, that strikes me as a worst-of-both-worlds solution.
    – Mark Amery
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There have been several stories in the media about how a video of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dancing has caused conservatives to mock or shame her for it.



News sources where this claim is made:





  1. So when an old video of her as a college student emerged, some of them [conservatives] darn near lost their minds.
    MSNBC




  2. I love how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has turned American politics into a live action Footloose. People dancing!? Oh the horror! Where will it end?
    New York Times




  3. I hear the GOP thinks women dancing are scandalous. -Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    CNN




  4. After several conservative Twitter accounts resurfaced clips from the video this week in an attempt to mock Ocasio-Cortez, supporters rushed to her defense.
    USA Today




  5. Conservatives Try to Shame Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for Dancing Video from College



    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez danced around once in college — and conservatives lost it.
    Now This News




  6. Conservatives Mock Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for College Dancing Video, Everyone Else Thinks it's Adorable
    Newsweek




However, among all these different stories, there has only been one example cited where she was attacked for the dancing video, a tweet from an anonymous twitter account.



Are there notable examples of any prominent conservatives attacking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for the dance? Any evidence of a public upset among common conservatives? Are all of these news stories only based on this one random tweet (in which case is it fair to say that the news stories are false when they claim that conservatives are "losing their minds" over the video)?



An article from Fox News claims the outrage is fabricated:




An old video of now-Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez playfully recreating a dance scene from "The Breakfast Club" was resurfaced anonymously on Twitter last week -- resulting in a slew of misleading stories claiming conservatives were outraged over it, despite virtually no supporting evidence.











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There have been several stories in the media about how a video of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dancing has caused conservatives to mock or shame her for it.



News sources where this claim is made:





  1. So when an old video of her as a college student emerged, some of them [conservatives] darn near lost their minds.
    MSNBC




  2. I love how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has turned American politics into a live action Footloose. People dancing!? Oh the horror! Where will it end?
    New York Times




  3. I hear the GOP thinks women dancing are scandalous. -Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    CNN




  4. After several conservative Twitter accounts resurfaced clips from the video this week in an attempt to mock Ocasio-Cortez, supporters rushed to her defense.
    USA Today




  5. Conservatives Try to Shame Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for Dancing Video from College



    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez danced around once in college — and conservatives lost it.
    Now This News




  6. Conservatives Mock Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for College Dancing Video, Everyone Else Thinks it's Adorable
    Newsweek




However, among all these different stories, there has only been one example cited where she was attacked for the dancing video, a tweet from an anonymous twitter account.



Are there notable examples of any prominent conservatives attacking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for the dance? Any evidence of a public upset among common conservatives? Are all of these news stories only based on this one random tweet (in which case is it fair to say that the news stories are false when they claim that conservatives are "losing their minds" over the video)?



An article from Fox News claims the outrage is fabricated:




An old video of now-Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez playfully recreating a dance scene from "The Breakfast Club" was resurfaced anonymously on Twitter last week -- resulting in a slew of misleading stories claiming conservatives were outraged over it, despite virtually no supporting evidence.








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    @Oddthinking Something along the lines of quotes or clips of conservative commentators attacking her. They are easy to find for other times that she has been mocked by conservatives for other things.
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    Closing because it's asking for a non-objective opinion. Furthermore, it attracted a slew of bad/non-referenced answers which we will likely need to delete
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    @Sklivvz What exactly is opinion-based here? Either there exist instances of conservatives criticising Cortez over her dance video, or there don't. I guess there's some subjectivity over who counts as a conservative or over whether any given piece of commentary is critical of her or not, but you can immediately see plenty of less clearly-defined questions on the site's front page right now or at skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions?pagesize=15&sort=votes.
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    @Sklivvz The closure leaves the polemics and individual speculation around, while preventing anyone who actually has some previously-unposted evidence to share from doing so; while I'm not an active member here, that strikes me as a worst-of-both-worlds solution.
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    @fredsbend the quality of the answers, including yours, speaks for itself in my opinion.
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    @Oddthinking Something along the lines of quotes or clips of conservative commentators attacking her. They are easy to find for other times that she has been mocked by conservatives for other things.
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    Closing because it's asking for a non-objective opinion. Furthermore, it attracted a slew of bad/non-referenced answers which we will likely need to delete
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    @Sklivvz What exactly is opinion-based here? Either there exist instances of conservatives criticising Cortez over her dance video, or there don't. I guess there's some subjectivity over who counts as a conservative or over whether any given piece of commentary is critical of her or not, but you can immediately see plenty of less clearly-defined questions on the site's front page right now or at skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions?pagesize=15&sort=votes.
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    @Sklivvz The closure leaves the polemics and individual speculation around, while preventing anyone who actually has some previously-unposted evidence to share from doing so; while I'm not an active member here, that strikes me as a worst-of-both-worlds solution.
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@Sklivvz What exactly is opinion-based here? Either there exist instances of conservatives criticising Cortez over her dance video, or there don't. I guess there's some subjectivity over who counts as a conservative or over whether any given piece of commentary is critical of her or not, but you can immediately see plenty of less clearly-defined questions on the site's front page right now or at skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions?pagesize=15&sort=votes.
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@Sklivvz What exactly is opinion-based here? Either there exist instances of conservatives criticising Cortez over her dance video, or there don't. I guess there's some subjectivity over who counts as a conservative or over whether any given piece of commentary is critical of her or not, but you can immediately see plenty of less clearly-defined questions on the site's front page right now or at skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions?pagesize=15&sort=votes.
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@Sklivvz The closure leaves the polemics and individual speculation around, while preventing anyone who actually has some previously-unposted evidence to share from doing so; while I'm not an active member here, that strikes me as a worst-of-both-worlds solution.
– Mark Amery
yesterday






@Sklivvz The closure leaves the polemics and individual speculation around, while preventing anyone who actually has some previously-unposted evidence to share from doing so; while I'm not an active member here, that strikes me as a worst-of-both-worlds solution.
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In light of there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets making the claim, and further in light of Fox News' through article (which you already cite), the burden of proof that a conservative outrage actually exists or existed is firmly in the claimants' hands. As that Fox article notes multiple times, not a single bit of evidence aside from an anonymous tweet can be found as the reason for this claim. Without an exhaustive search of all media, I'm not sure what else could be provided to disprove the claim. Without the claimants coming forward with real evidence, a skeptical position seems the most reasonable.



What I believe we are witness to here is an instance of a recent phenomenon. So called "Fake news" is perhaps the most comprehensive term, but in this instance, the drumming up of controversy from a small collection of tweets from common people with no audience is specifically what has happened. It's been determined that Twitter specifically is prone to spreading falsehoods (secondary source), but more and more people are depending on Twitter as a news source. Science News blames this on cleverly designed Twitter bots. The Guardian scathingly blames fellow journalists as self-referential and detached from the rest of the world outside their "twitter bubble". Ken Kam of Forbes, in an article on the rapidly changing landscape of news media, calls Twitter a direct line to newsworthy persons. Specifically, he means to point to President Trump, with with 50 million Twitter followers, whose Twitter use is only exacerbated by his belief that the news media will not report on him fairly.



With all this in mind, your inner skeptic should be screaming his head off the moment you see any news that has anything to do with the activities happening on Twitter. This Ocasio-Cortez dancing thing is only a recent example, egregious as it is.






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    While the factual claims in this post are fine, the Answer itself has political bias problems. It uses a source that claims a motive beyond the evidence given (saying the issue was manufactured, rather than just "we don't have evidence of the claim"), and uses a conservative definition of "fake news" which has been expanded from its original meaning of "entirely manufactured news" to "any news where accuracy is in question." The story may not be accurate, but it is my understanding that this SE attempts to remove all political bias from Answers.
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    @trlkly I can agree that Fox News has a bias, and I'm sure that shows in the article linked (which is the one I assume you are referring to). I think I was fair in my only sentence that says "fake news", being careful to not flat out call it that myself. Wrong? Certainly. Perpetuated by news media? Also true. Call it fake news or not, doesn't matter to me. I'm content with old fashioned "BS". I'd challenge your definition of "manufactured", if no-evidence half-cocked divisive BS doesn't count.
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    "there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets" needs citation
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    @Sklivvz I assume he implicitly means "in the six news articles cited in the question". A reader of this answer is perfectly capable of opening them themselves to check if the claim is true; citing somebody else's commentary on them would be pointless.
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    @MarkAmery furthermore I can easily give the opposite answer using the same technique as the OP: "In light of these being reliable news sources, whereas Fox News has been considered extremely biased, I would assume they have sources that they chose not to disclose". See? It works either way, depending on our political position. No thanks.
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Someone had the foresight to archive the original tweet on archive.is. From that archive, we can see what the original account, and a few of the conservatives following it, actually thought.




@AnonymousQ1776: "Here is America’s favorite commie know-it-all acting like the clueless nitwit she is..."



Right-wing reply: "I actually find this endearing although she is completely out of her mind politically..." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Right-wing reply: "Got to admit she is smokin' hot." @AnonymousQ1776: "First thing my liberal acquaintances say when she comes up in conversations. Bruh...she’s so hot!" Reply: "No brain, too bad."



Right-wing reply: "maybe Sandy from the Bronx was auditioning for a Fame remake.oh well politicians are just actors anyway." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Combative reply: "You realize this just makes her look cool as hell right?" @AnonymousQ1776: "Really?"



Combative reply: "It’s a kid dancing, nitwit." @AnonymousQ1776: "No it’s a nitwit dancing, kid."




In summary, the original anonymous account thought the video made her look stupid. Some right-wing users agreed, while others disagreed. If the original account was trolling, they were doing a very good job looking authentic.



The MSNBC/NYT/CNN spin that these Twitter users were "losing their minds" and were representative of "the GOP" is hyperbolic. However, I think the description by USA Today is accurate. There was indeed a funny thread on Twitter which spawned memes.






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    I had upvoted you, but then you added the conlusory paragraph, where you present several opinion statements as factual, including one entirely superfluous about news integrity. You present your opinion of their motivations as factual. When dealing with claims that the news organizations known for decades for their accuracy are acting in bad faith, you need more than just your opinion to back that up.
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    It might be relevant to provide some information about the memes you mention, as this may be what the left-leaning news sources are trying to characterize as "losing their minds."
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    @Avery Yeah, my issue is precisely that "they aren't explicitly saying that dancing makes you look stupid" or even implying it. Even in the critical comments, there's no negative commentary on the dancing. It's not surprising that Cortez was criticised by right-wingers in a conversation about her. There's a big difference between Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist despite cute dance video (i.e. the story that the quoted exchange here shows, to my eyes) and Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist because of cute dance video (which is what was claimed).
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    That's a reasonable interpretation as well. While my personal commentary on the news reporting (and discussion of it) was removed, I do agree with you on the larger point that MSNBC, NYT, and CNN spun this single tweet far beyond what I would consider acceptable for major news media.
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The original tweet about dancing came from an anonymous account, and indeed could have been done to make conservatives look stupid. However, noted and widely-read conservative pundit Jim Hoft (Gateway Pundit) retweeted it favorably. So at least he was outraged.






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    I don't I get outrage from his re-tweet, but good find nonetheless.
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    Why does a "favorable retweet" imply outrage? The linked article is talking about Ocasio-Cortez's "affluent" upbringing. Which also has nothing to do with dancing, but with her mischaracterization about her upbringing.
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    @jpmc26 I don't think the fauxtrage was ever about dancing per se, but about dancing while attending a private second-tier college (and I mean second-tier in a good way), even wearing a college sweater.
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    Your link doesn’t show a retweet, and the article in question concerns itself with the politician’s nickname. The article is completely inane, but it does not mock her for the dancing.
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  • It might be better for the purposes of this website to talk about persistent ad hominem attacks on this particular person, and where this tweet fits in there. This certainly counts as an ad hominem attack. Readers can decide for themselves unprovable things like the emotional state of the attackers.
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In light of there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets making the claim, and further in light of Fox News' through article (which you already cite), the burden of proof that a conservative outrage actually exists or existed is firmly in the claimants' hands. As that Fox article notes multiple times, not a single bit of evidence aside from an anonymous tweet can be found as the reason for this claim. Without an exhaustive search of all media, I'm not sure what else could be provided to disprove the claim. Without the claimants coming forward with real evidence, a skeptical position seems the most reasonable.



What I believe we are witness to here is an instance of a recent phenomenon. So called "Fake news" is perhaps the most comprehensive term, but in this instance, the drumming up of controversy from a small collection of tweets from common people with no audience is specifically what has happened. It's been determined that Twitter specifically is prone to spreading falsehoods (secondary source), but more and more people are depending on Twitter as a news source. Science News blames this on cleverly designed Twitter bots. The Guardian scathingly blames fellow journalists as self-referential and detached from the rest of the world outside their "twitter bubble". Ken Kam of Forbes, in an article on the rapidly changing landscape of news media, calls Twitter a direct line to newsworthy persons. Specifically, he means to point to President Trump, with with 50 million Twitter followers, whose Twitter use is only exacerbated by his belief that the news media will not report on him fairly.



With all this in mind, your inner skeptic should be screaming his head off the moment you see any news that has anything to do with the activities happening on Twitter. This Ocasio-Cortez dancing thing is only a recent example, egregious as it is.






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    While the factual claims in this post are fine, the Answer itself has political bias problems. It uses a source that claims a motive beyond the evidence given (saying the issue was manufactured, rather than just "we don't have evidence of the claim"), and uses a conservative definition of "fake news" which has been expanded from its original meaning of "entirely manufactured news" to "any news where accuracy is in question." The story may not be accurate, but it is my understanding that this SE attempts to remove all political bias from Answers.
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    @trlkly I can agree that Fox News has a bias, and I'm sure that shows in the article linked (which is the one I assume you are referring to). I think I was fair in my only sentence that says "fake news", being careful to not flat out call it that myself. Wrong? Certainly. Perpetuated by news media? Also true. Call it fake news or not, doesn't matter to me. I'm content with old fashioned "BS". I'd challenge your definition of "manufactured", if no-evidence half-cocked divisive BS doesn't count.
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    "there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets" needs citation
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    @Sklivvz I assume he implicitly means "in the six news articles cited in the question". A reader of this answer is perfectly capable of opening them themselves to check if the claim is true; citing somebody else's commentary on them would be pointless.
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    @MarkAmery furthermore I can easily give the opposite answer using the same technique as the OP: "In light of these being reliable news sources, whereas Fox News has been considered extremely biased, I would assume they have sources that they chose not to disclose". See? It works either way, depending on our political position. No thanks.
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In light of there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets making the claim, and further in light of Fox News' through article (which you already cite), the burden of proof that a conservative outrage actually exists or existed is firmly in the claimants' hands. As that Fox article notes multiple times, not a single bit of evidence aside from an anonymous tweet can be found as the reason for this claim. Without an exhaustive search of all media, I'm not sure what else could be provided to disprove the claim. Without the claimants coming forward with real evidence, a skeptical position seems the most reasonable.



What I believe we are witness to here is an instance of a recent phenomenon. So called "Fake news" is perhaps the most comprehensive term, but in this instance, the drumming up of controversy from a small collection of tweets from common people with no audience is specifically what has happened. It's been determined that Twitter specifically is prone to spreading falsehoods (secondary source), but more and more people are depending on Twitter as a news source. Science News blames this on cleverly designed Twitter bots. The Guardian scathingly blames fellow journalists as self-referential and detached from the rest of the world outside their "twitter bubble". Ken Kam of Forbes, in an article on the rapidly changing landscape of news media, calls Twitter a direct line to newsworthy persons. Specifically, he means to point to President Trump, with with 50 million Twitter followers, whose Twitter use is only exacerbated by his belief that the news media will not report on him fairly.



With all this in mind, your inner skeptic should be screaming his head off the moment you see any news that has anything to do with the activities happening on Twitter. This Ocasio-Cortez dancing thing is only a recent example, egregious as it is.






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    While the factual claims in this post are fine, the Answer itself has political bias problems. It uses a source that claims a motive beyond the evidence given (saying the issue was manufactured, rather than just "we don't have evidence of the claim"), and uses a conservative definition of "fake news" which has been expanded from its original meaning of "entirely manufactured news" to "any news where accuracy is in question." The story may not be accurate, but it is my understanding that this SE attempts to remove all political bias from Answers.
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    @trlkly I can agree that Fox News has a bias, and I'm sure that shows in the article linked (which is the one I assume you are referring to). I think I was fair in my only sentence that says "fake news", being careful to not flat out call it that myself. Wrong? Certainly. Perpetuated by news media? Also true. Call it fake news or not, doesn't matter to me. I'm content with old fashioned "BS". I'd challenge your definition of "manufactured", if no-evidence half-cocked divisive BS doesn't count.
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    "there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets" needs citation
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    @Sklivvz I assume he implicitly means "in the six news articles cited in the question". A reader of this answer is perfectly capable of opening them themselves to check if the claim is true; citing somebody else's commentary on them would be pointless.
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    @MarkAmery furthermore I can easily give the opposite answer using the same technique as the OP: "In light of these being reliable news sources, whereas Fox News has been considered extremely biased, I would assume they have sources that they chose not to disclose". See? It works either way, depending on our political position. No thanks.
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In light of there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets making the claim, and further in light of Fox News' through article (which you already cite), the burden of proof that a conservative outrage actually exists or existed is firmly in the claimants' hands. As that Fox article notes multiple times, not a single bit of evidence aside from an anonymous tweet can be found as the reason for this claim. Without an exhaustive search of all media, I'm not sure what else could be provided to disprove the claim. Without the claimants coming forward with real evidence, a skeptical position seems the most reasonable.



What I believe we are witness to here is an instance of a recent phenomenon. So called "Fake news" is perhaps the most comprehensive term, but in this instance, the drumming up of controversy from a small collection of tweets from common people with no audience is specifically what has happened. It's been determined that Twitter specifically is prone to spreading falsehoods (secondary source), but more and more people are depending on Twitter as a news source. Science News blames this on cleverly designed Twitter bots. The Guardian scathingly blames fellow journalists as self-referential and detached from the rest of the world outside their "twitter bubble". Ken Kam of Forbes, in an article on the rapidly changing landscape of news media, calls Twitter a direct line to newsworthy persons. Specifically, he means to point to President Trump, with with 50 million Twitter followers, whose Twitter use is only exacerbated by his belief that the news media will not report on him fairly.



With all this in mind, your inner skeptic should be screaming his head off the moment you see any news that has anything to do with the activities happening on Twitter. This Ocasio-Cortez dancing thing is only a recent example, egregious as it is.






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In light of there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets making the claim, and further in light of Fox News' through article (which you already cite), the burden of proof that a conservative outrage actually exists or existed is firmly in the claimants' hands. As that Fox article notes multiple times, not a single bit of evidence aside from an anonymous tweet can be found as the reason for this claim. Without an exhaustive search of all media, I'm not sure what else could be provided to disprove the claim. Without the claimants coming forward with real evidence, a skeptical position seems the most reasonable.



What I believe we are witness to here is an instance of a recent phenomenon. So called "Fake news" is perhaps the most comprehensive term, but in this instance, the drumming up of controversy from a small collection of tweets from common people with no audience is specifically what has happened. It's been determined that Twitter specifically is prone to spreading falsehoods (secondary source), but more and more people are depending on Twitter as a news source. Science News blames this on cleverly designed Twitter bots. The Guardian scathingly blames fellow journalists as self-referential and detached from the rest of the world outside their "twitter bubble". Ken Kam of Forbes, in an article on the rapidly changing landscape of news media, calls Twitter a direct line to newsworthy persons. Specifically, he means to point to President Trump, with with 50 million Twitter followers, whose Twitter use is only exacerbated by his belief that the news media will not report on him fairly.



With all this in mind, your inner skeptic should be screaming his head off the moment you see any news that has anything to do with the activities happening on Twitter. This Ocasio-Cortez dancing thing is only a recent example, egregious as it is.







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    While the factual claims in this post are fine, the Answer itself has political bias problems. It uses a source that claims a motive beyond the evidence given (saying the issue was manufactured, rather than just "we don't have evidence of the claim"), and uses a conservative definition of "fake news" which has been expanded from its original meaning of "entirely manufactured news" to "any news where accuracy is in question." The story may not be accurate, but it is my understanding that this SE attempts to remove all political bias from Answers.
    – trlkly
    yesterday






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    @trlkly I can agree that Fox News has a bias, and I'm sure that shows in the article linked (which is the one I assume you are referring to). I think I was fair in my only sentence that says "fake news", being careful to not flat out call it that myself. Wrong? Certainly. Perpetuated by news media? Also true. Call it fake news or not, doesn't matter to me. I'm content with old fashioned "BS". I'd challenge your definition of "manufactured", if no-evidence half-cocked divisive BS doesn't count.
    – fredsbend
    yesterday






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    "there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets" needs citation
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    yesterday






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    @Sklivvz I assume he implicitly means "in the six news articles cited in the question". A reader of this answer is perfectly capable of opening them themselves to check if the claim is true; citing somebody else's commentary on them would be pointless.
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    yesterday






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    @MarkAmery furthermore I can easily give the opposite answer using the same technique as the OP: "In light of these being reliable news sources, whereas Fox News has been considered extremely biased, I would assume they have sources that they chose not to disclose". See? It works either way, depending on our political position. No thanks.
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    While the factual claims in this post are fine, the Answer itself has political bias problems. It uses a source that claims a motive beyond the evidence given (saying the issue was manufactured, rather than just "we don't have evidence of the claim"), and uses a conservative definition of "fake news" which has been expanded from its original meaning of "entirely manufactured news" to "any news where accuracy is in question." The story may not be accurate, but it is my understanding that this SE attempts to remove all political bias from Answers.
    – trlkly
    yesterday






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    @trlkly I can agree that Fox News has a bias, and I'm sure that shows in the article linked (which is the one I assume you are referring to). I think I was fair in my only sentence that says "fake news", being careful to not flat out call it that myself. Wrong? Certainly. Perpetuated by news media? Also true. Call it fake news or not, doesn't matter to me. I'm content with old fashioned "BS". I'd challenge your definition of "manufactured", if no-evidence half-cocked divisive BS doesn't count.
    – fredsbend
    yesterday






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    "there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets" needs citation
    – Sklivvz
    yesterday






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    @Sklivvz I assume he implicitly means "in the six news articles cited in the question". A reader of this answer is perfectly capable of opening them themselves to check if the claim is true; citing somebody else's commentary on them would be pointless.
    – Mark Amery
    yesterday






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    @MarkAmery furthermore I can easily give the opposite answer using the same technique as the OP: "In light of these being reliable news sources, whereas Fox News has been considered extremely biased, I would assume they have sources that they chose not to disclose". See? It works either way, depending on our political position. No thanks.
    – Sklivvz
    yesterday








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While the factual claims in this post are fine, the Answer itself has political bias problems. It uses a source that claims a motive beyond the evidence given (saying the issue was manufactured, rather than just "we don't have evidence of the claim"), and uses a conservative definition of "fake news" which has been expanded from its original meaning of "entirely manufactured news" to "any news where accuracy is in question." The story may not be accurate, but it is my understanding that this SE attempts to remove all political bias from Answers.
– trlkly
yesterday




While the factual claims in this post are fine, the Answer itself has political bias problems. It uses a source that claims a motive beyond the evidence given (saying the issue was manufactured, rather than just "we don't have evidence of the claim"), and uses a conservative definition of "fake news" which has been expanded from its original meaning of "entirely manufactured news" to "any news where accuracy is in question." The story may not be accurate, but it is my understanding that this SE attempts to remove all political bias from Answers.
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@trlkly I can agree that Fox News has a bias, and I'm sure that shows in the article linked (which is the one I assume you are referring to). I think I was fair in my only sentence that says "fake news", being careful to not flat out call it that myself. Wrong? Certainly. Perpetuated by news media? Also true. Call it fake news or not, doesn't matter to me. I'm content with old fashioned "BS". I'd challenge your definition of "manufactured", if no-evidence half-cocked divisive BS doesn't count.
– fredsbend
yesterday




@trlkly I can agree that Fox News has a bias, and I'm sure that shows in the article linked (which is the one I assume you are referring to). I think I was fair in my only sentence that says "fake news", being careful to not flat out call it that myself. Wrong? Certainly. Perpetuated by news media? Also true. Call it fake news or not, doesn't matter to me. I'm content with old fashioned "BS". I'd challenge your definition of "manufactured", if no-evidence half-cocked divisive BS doesn't count.
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"there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets" needs citation
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"there being virtually no prominent conservative cited by any of the media outlets" needs citation
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@Sklivvz I assume he implicitly means "in the six news articles cited in the question". A reader of this answer is perfectly capable of opening them themselves to check if the claim is true; citing somebody else's commentary on them would be pointless.
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yesterday




@Sklivvz I assume he implicitly means "in the six news articles cited in the question". A reader of this answer is perfectly capable of opening them themselves to check if the claim is true; citing somebody else's commentary on them would be pointless.
– Mark Amery
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@MarkAmery furthermore I can easily give the opposite answer using the same technique as the OP: "In light of these being reliable news sources, whereas Fox News has been considered extremely biased, I would assume they have sources that they chose not to disclose". See? It works either way, depending on our political position. No thanks.
– Sklivvz
yesterday




@MarkAmery furthermore I can easily give the opposite answer using the same technique as the OP: "In light of these being reliable news sources, whereas Fox News has been considered extremely biased, I would assume they have sources that they chose not to disclose". See? It works either way, depending on our political position. No thanks.
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Someone had the foresight to archive the original tweet on archive.is. From that archive, we can see what the original account, and a few of the conservatives following it, actually thought.




@AnonymousQ1776: "Here is America’s favorite commie know-it-all acting like the clueless nitwit she is..."



Right-wing reply: "I actually find this endearing although she is completely out of her mind politically..." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Right-wing reply: "Got to admit she is smokin' hot." @AnonymousQ1776: "First thing my liberal acquaintances say when she comes up in conversations. Bruh...she’s so hot!" Reply: "No brain, too bad."



Right-wing reply: "maybe Sandy from the Bronx was auditioning for a Fame remake.oh well politicians are just actors anyway." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Combative reply: "You realize this just makes her look cool as hell right?" @AnonymousQ1776: "Really?"



Combative reply: "It’s a kid dancing, nitwit." @AnonymousQ1776: "No it’s a nitwit dancing, kid."




In summary, the original anonymous account thought the video made her look stupid. Some right-wing users agreed, while others disagreed. If the original account was trolling, they were doing a very good job looking authentic.



The MSNBC/NYT/CNN spin that these Twitter users were "losing their minds" and were representative of "the GOP" is hyperbolic. However, I think the description by USA Today is accurate. There was indeed a funny thread on Twitter which spawned memes.






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    I had upvoted you, but then you added the conlusory paragraph, where you present several opinion statements as factual, including one entirely superfluous about news integrity. You present your opinion of their motivations as factual. When dealing with claims that the news organizations known for decades for their accuracy are acting in bad faith, you need more than just your opinion to back that up.
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    Thanks for your feedback; I removed the characterizations accordingly
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    It might be relevant to provide some information about the memes you mention, as this may be what the left-leaning news sources are trying to characterize as "losing their minds."
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    @Avery Yeah, my issue is precisely that "they aren't explicitly saying that dancing makes you look stupid" or even implying it. Even in the critical comments, there's no negative commentary on the dancing. It's not surprising that Cortez was criticised by right-wingers in a conversation about her. There's a big difference between Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist despite cute dance video (i.e. the story that the quoted exchange here shows, to my eyes) and Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist because of cute dance video (which is what was claimed).
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    That's a reasonable interpretation as well. While my personal commentary on the news reporting (and discussion of it) was removed, I do agree with you on the larger point that MSNBC, NYT, and CNN spun this single tweet far beyond what I would consider acceptable for major news media.
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Someone had the foresight to archive the original tweet on archive.is. From that archive, we can see what the original account, and a few of the conservatives following it, actually thought.




@AnonymousQ1776: "Here is America’s favorite commie know-it-all acting like the clueless nitwit she is..."



Right-wing reply: "I actually find this endearing although she is completely out of her mind politically..." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Right-wing reply: "Got to admit she is smokin' hot." @AnonymousQ1776: "First thing my liberal acquaintances say when she comes up in conversations. Bruh...she’s so hot!" Reply: "No brain, too bad."



Right-wing reply: "maybe Sandy from the Bronx was auditioning for a Fame remake.oh well politicians are just actors anyway." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Combative reply: "You realize this just makes her look cool as hell right?" @AnonymousQ1776: "Really?"



Combative reply: "It’s a kid dancing, nitwit." @AnonymousQ1776: "No it’s a nitwit dancing, kid."




In summary, the original anonymous account thought the video made her look stupid. Some right-wing users agreed, while others disagreed. If the original account was trolling, they were doing a very good job looking authentic.



The MSNBC/NYT/CNN spin that these Twitter users were "losing their minds" and were representative of "the GOP" is hyperbolic. However, I think the description by USA Today is accurate. There was indeed a funny thread on Twitter which spawned memes.






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    I had upvoted you, but then you added the conlusory paragraph, where you present several opinion statements as factual, including one entirely superfluous about news integrity. You present your opinion of their motivations as factual. When dealing with claims that the news organizations known for decades for their accuracy are acting in bad faith, you need more than just your opinion to back that up.
    – trlkly
    yesterday






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    Thanks for your feedback; I removed the characterizations accordingly
    – Avery
    yesterday






  • 2




    It might be relevant to provide some information about the memes you mention, as this may be what the left-leaning news sources are trying to characterize as "losing their minds."
    – jpmc26
    yesterday






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    @Avery Yeah, my issue is precisely that "they aren't explicitly saying that dancing makes you look stupid" or even implying it. Even in the critical comments, there's no negative commentary on the dancing. It's not surprising that Cortez was criticised by right-wingers in a conversation about her. There's a big difference between Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist despite cute dance video (i.e. the story that the quoted exchange here shows, to my eyes) and Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist because of cute dance video (which is what was claimed).
    – Mark Amery
    yesterday








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    That's a reasonable interpretation as well. While my personal commentary on the news reporting (and discussion of it) was removed, I do agree with you on the larger point that MSNBC, NYT, and CNN spun this single tweet far beyond what I would consider acceptable for major news media.
    – Avery
    yesterday














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Someone had the foresight to archive the original tweet on archive.is. From that archive, we can see what the original account, and a few of the conservatives following it, actually thought.




@AnonymousQ1776: "Here is America’s favorite commie know-it-all acting like the clueless nitwit she is..."



Right-wing reply: "I actually find this endearing although she is completely out of her mind politically..." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Right-wing reply: "Got to admit she is smokin' hot." @AnonymousQ1776: "First thing my liberal acquaintances say when she comes up in conversations. Bruh...she’s so hot!" Reply: "No brain, too bad."



Right-wing reply: "maybe Sandy from the Bronx was auditioning for a Fame remake.oh well politicians are just actors anyway." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Combative reply: "You realize this just makes her look cool as hell right?" @AnonymousQ1776: "Really?"



Combative reply: "It’s a kid dancing, nitwit." @AnonymousQ1776: "No it’s a nitwit dancing, kid."




In summary, the original anonymous account thought the video made her look stupid. Some right-wing users agreed, while others disagreed. If the original account was trolling, they were doing a very good job looking authentic.



The MSNBC/NYT/CNN spin that these Twitter users were "losing their minds" and were representative of "the GOP" is hyperbolic. However, I think the description by USA Today is accurate. There was indeed a funny thread on Twitter which spawned memes.






share|improve this answer














Someone had the foresight to archive the original tweet on archive.is. From that archive, we can see what the original account, and a few of the conservatives following it, actually thought.




@AnonymousQ1776: "Here is America’s favorite commie know-it-all acting like the clueless nitwit she is..."



Right-wing reply: "I actually find this endearing although she is completely out of her mind politically..." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Right-wing reply: "Got to admit she is smokin' hot." @AnonymousQ1776: "First thing my liberal acquaintances say when she comes up in conversations. Bruh...she’s so hot!" Reply: "No brain, too bad."



Right-wing reply: "maybe Sandy from the Bronx was auditioning for a Fame remake.oh well politicians are just actors anyway." @AnonymousQ1776: "Agreed"



Combative reply: "You realize this just makes her look cool as hell right?" @AnonymousQ1776: "Really?"



Combative reply: "It’s a kid dancing, nitwit." @AnonymousQ1776: "No it’s a nitwit dancing, kid."




In summary, the original anonymous account thought the video made her look stupid. Some right-wing users agreed, while others disagreed. If the original account was trolling, they were doing a very good job looking authentic.



The MSNBC/NYT/CNN spin that these Twitter users were "losing their minds" and were representative of "the GOP" is hyperbolic. However, I think the description by USA Today is accurate. There was indeed a funny thread on Twitter which spawned memes.







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    I had upvoted you, but then you added the conlusory paragraph, where you present several opinion statements as factual, including one entirely superfluous about news integrity. You present your opinion of their motivations as factual. When dealing with claims that the news organizations known for decades for their accuracy are acting in bad faith, you need more than just your opinion to back that up.
    – trlkly
    yesterday






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    Thanks for your feedback; I removed the characterizations accordingly
    – Avery
    yesterday






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    It might be relevant to provide some information about the memes you mention, as this may be what the left-leaning news sources are trying to characterize as "losing their minds."
    – jpmc26
    yesterday






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    @Avery Yeah, my issue is precisely that "they aren't explicitly saying that dancing makes you look stupid" or even implying it. Even in the critical comments, there's no negative commentary on the dancing. It's not surprising that Cortez was criticised by right-wingers in a conversation about her. There's a big difference between Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist despite cute dance video (i.e. the story that the quoted exchange here shows, to my eyes) and Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist because of cute dance video (which is what was claimed).
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    That's a reasonable interpretation as well. While my personal commentary on the news reporting (and discussion of it) was removed, I do agree with you on the larger point that MSNBC, NYT, and CNN spun this single tweet far beyond what I would consider acceptable for major news media.
    – Avery
    yesterday














  • 7




    I had upvoted you, but then you added the conlusory paragraph, where you present several opinion statements as factual, including one entirely superfluous about news integrity. You present your opinion of their motivations as factual. When dealing with claims that the news organizations known for decades for their accuracy are acting in bad faith, you need more than just your opinion to back that up.
    – trlkly
    yesterday






  • 6




    Thanks for your feedback; I removed the characterizations accordingly
    – Avery
    yesterday






  • 2




    It might be relevant to provide some information about the memes you mention, as this may be what the left-leaning news sources are trying to characterize as "losing their minds."
    – jpmc26
    yesterday






  • 7




    @Avery Yeah, my issue is precisely that "they aren't explicitly saying that dancing makes you look stupid" or even implying it. Even in the critical comments, there's no negative commentary on the dancing. It's not surprising that Cortez was criticised by right-wingers in a conversation about her. There's a big difference between Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist despite cute dance video (i.e. the story that the quoted exchange here shows, to my eyes) and Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist because of cute dance video (which is what was claimed).
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    yesterday








  • 5




    That's a reasonable interpretation as well. While my personal commentary on the news reporting (and discussion of it) was removed, I do agree with you on the larger point that MSNBC, NYT, and CNN spun this single tweet far beyond what I would consider acceptable for major news media.
    – Avery
    yesterday








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I had upvoted you, but then you added the conlusory paragraph, where you present several opinion statements as factual, including one entirely superfluous about news integrity. You present your opinion of their motivations as factual. When dealing with claims that the news organizations known for decades for their accuracy are acting in bad faith, you need more than just your opinion to back that up.
– trlkly
yesterday




I had upvoted you, but then you added the conlusory paragraph, where you present several opinion statements as factual, including one entirely superfluous about news integrity. You present your opinion of their motivations as factual. When dealing with claims that the news organizations known for decades for their accuracy are acting in bad faith, you need more than just your opinion to back that up.
– trlkly
yesterday




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Thanks for your feedback; I removed the characterizations accordingly
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yesterday




Thanks for your feedback; I removed the characterizations accordingly
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yesterday




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It might be relevant to provide some information about the memes you mention, as this may be what the left-leaning news sources are trying to characterize as "losing their minds."
– jpmc26
yesterday




It might be relevant to provide some information about the memes you mention, as this may be what the left-leaning news sources are trying to characterize as "losing their minds."
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@Avery Yeah, my issue is precisely that "they aren't explicitly saying that dancing makes you look stupid" or even implying it. Even in the critical comments, there's no negative commentary on the dancing. It's not surprising that Cortez was criticised by right-wingers in a conversation about her. There's a big difference between Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist despite cute dance video (i.e. the story that the quoted exchange here shows, to my eyes) and Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist because of cute dance video (which is what was claimed).
– Mark Amery
yesterday






@Avery Yeah, my issue is precisely that "they aren't explicitly saying that dancing makes you look stupid" or even implying it. Even in the critical comments, there's no negative commentary on the dancing. It's not surprising that Cortez was criticised by right-wingers in a conversation about her. There's a big difference between Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist despite cute dance video (i.e. the story that the quoted exchange here shows, to my eyes) and Conservatives critical of self-identified socialist because of cute dance video (which is what was claimed).
– Mark Amery
yesterday






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That's a reasonable interpretation as well. While my personal commentary on the news reporting (and discussion of it) was removed, I do agree with you on the larger point that MSNBC, NYT, and CNN spun this single tweet far beyond what I would consider acceptable for major news media.
– Avery
yesterday




That's a reasonable interpretation as well. While my personal commentary on the news reporting (and discussion of it) was removed, I do agree with you on the larger point that MSNBC, NYT, and CNN spun this single tweet far beyond what I would consider acceptable for major news media.
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The original tweet about dancing came from an anonymous account, and indeed could have been done to make conservatives look stupid. However, noted and widely-read conservative pundit Jim Hoft (Gateway Pundit) retweeted it favorably. So at least he was outraged.






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    I don't I get outrage from his re-tweet, but good find nonetheless.
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    Why does a "favorable retweet" imply outrage? The linked article is talking about Ocasio-Cortez's "affluent" upbringing. Which also has nothing to do with dancing, but with her mischaracterization about her upbringing.
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    @jpmc26 I don't think the fauxtrage was ever about dancing per se, but about dancing while attending a private second-tier college (and I mean second-tier in a good way), even wearing a college sweater.
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    Your link doesn’t show a retweet, and the article in question concerns itself with the politician’s nickname. The article is completely inane, but it does not mock her for the dancing.
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  • It might be better for the purposes of this website to talk about persistent ad hominem attacks on this particular person, and where this tweet fits in there. This certainly counts as an ad hominem attack. Readers can decide for themselves unprovable things like the emotional state of the attackers.
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The original tweet about dancing came from an anonymous account, and indeed could have been done to make conservatives look stupid. However, noted and widely-read conservative pundit Jim Hoft (Gateway Pundit) retweeted it favorably. So at least he was outraged.






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    I don't I get outrage from his re-tweet, but good find nonetheless.
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    Why does a "favorable retweet" imply outrage? The linked article is talking about Ocasio-Cortez's "affluent" upbringing. Which also has nothing to do with dancing, but with her mischaracterization about her upbringing.
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    @jpmc26 I don't think the fauxtrage was ever about dancing per se, but about dancing while attending a private second-tier college (and I mean second-tier in a good way), even wearing a college sweater.
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    Your link doesn’t show a retweet, and the article in question concerns itself with the politician’s nickname. The article is completely inane, but it does not mock her for the dancing.
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  • It might be better for the purposes of this website to talk about persistent ad hominem attacks on this particular person, and where this tweet fits in there. This certainly counts as an ad hominem attack. Readers can decide for themselves unprovable things like the emotional state of the attackers.
    – T.E.D.
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The original tweet about dancing came from an anonymous account, and indeed could have been done to make conservatives look stupid. However, noted and widely-read conservative pundit Jim Hoft (Gateway Pundit) retweeted it favorably. So at least he was outraged.






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The original tweet about dancing came from an anonymous account, and indeed could have been done to make conservatives look stupid. However, noted and widely-read conservative pundit Jim Hoft (Gateway Pundit) retweeted it favorably. So at least he was outraged.







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    I don't I get outrage from his re-tweet, but good find nonetheless.
    – fredsbend
    yesterday








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    Why does a "favorable retweet" imply outrage? The linked article is talking about Ocasio-Cortez's "affluent" upbringing. Which also has nothing to do with dancing, but with her mischaracterization about her upbringing.
    – jpmc26
    yesterday








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    @jpmc26 I don't think the fauxtrage was ever about dancing per se, but about dancing while attending a private second-tier college (and I mean second-tier in a good way), even wearing a college sweater.
    – Andrew Lazarus
    23 hours ago






  • 1




    Your link doesn’t show a retweet, and the article in question concerns itself with the politician’s nickname. The article is completely inane, but it does not mock her for the dancing.
    – Konrad Rudolph
    2 hours ago












  • It might be better for the purposes of this website to talk about persistent ad hominem attacks on this particular person, and where this tweet fits in there. This certainly counts as an ad hominem attack. Readers can decide for themselves unprovable things like the emotional state of the attackers.
    – T.E.D.
    1 hour ago
















  • 5




    I don't I get outrage from his re-tweet, but good find nonetheless.
    – fredsbend
    yesterday








  • 5




    Why does a "favorable retweet" imply outrage? The linked article is talking about Ocasio-Cortez's "affluent" upbringing. Which also has nothing to do with dancing, but with her mischaracterization about her upbringing.
    – jpmc26
    yesterday








  • 1




    @jpmc26 I don't think the fauxtrage was ever about dancing per se, but about dancing while attending a private second-tier college (and I mean second-tier in a good way), even wearing a college sweater.
    – Andrew Lazarus
    23 hours ago






  • 1




    Your link doesn’t show a retweet, and the article in question concerns itself with the politician’s nickname. The article is completely inane, but it does not mock her for the dancing.
    – Konrad Rudolph
    2 hours ago












  • It might be better for the purposes of this website to talk about persistent ad hominem attacks on this particular person, and where this tweet fits in there. This certainly counts as an ad hominem attack. Readers can decide for themselves unprovable things like the emotional state of the attackers.
    – T.E.D.
    1 hour ago










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5




I don't I get outrage from his re-tweet, but good find nonetheless.
– fredsbend
yesterday






I don't I get outrage from his re-tweet, but good find nonetheless.
– fredsbend
yesterday






5




5




Why does a "favorable retweet" imply outrage? The linked article is talking about Ocasio-Cortez's "affluent" upbringing. Which also has nothing to do with dancing, but with her mischaracterization about her upbringing.
– jpmc26
yesterday






Why does a "favorable retweet" imply outrage? The linked article is talking about Ocasio-Cortez's "affluent" upbringing. Which also has nothing to do with dancing, but with her mischaracterization about her upbringing.
– jpmc26
yesterday






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1




@jpmc26 I don't think the fauxtrage was ever about dancing per se, but about dancing while attending a private second-tier college (and I mean second-tier in a good way), even wearing a college sweater.
– Andrew Lazarus
23 hours ago




@jpmc26 I don't think the fauxtrage was ever about dancing per se, but about dancing while attending a private second-tier college (and I mean second-tier in a good way), even wearing a college sweater.
– Andrew Lazarus
23 hours ago




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1




Your link doesn’t show a retweet, and the article in question concerns itself with the politician’s nickname. The article is completely inane, but it does not mock her for the dancing.
– Konrad Rudolph
2 hours ago






Your link doesn’t show a retweet, and the article in question concerns itself with the politician’s nickname. The article is completely inane, but it does not mock her for the dancing.
– Konrad Rudolph
2 hours ago














It might be better for the purposes of this website to talk about persistent ad hominem attacks on this particular person, and where this tweet fits in there. This certainly counts as an ad hominem attack. Readers can decide for themselves unprovable things like the emotional state of the attackers.
– T.E.D.
1 hour ago






It might be better for the purposes of this website to talk about persistent ad hominem attacks on this particular person, and where this tweet fits in there. This certainly counts as an ad hominem attack. Readers can decide for themselves unprovable things like the emotional state of the attackers.
– T.E.D.
1 hour ago





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