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I’m doing some travelling with my mate in a few weeks and I was wondering if, to save time, he could come through the Schengen border through the EU Line with me even though he is not a citizen?
I’m a dual Australian and Italian citizen, and he is an Australian citizen and has a 1 year residency visa (Italy).










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    Possible duplicate of Which queue for a EU/non-EU couple travelling through UK Immigration Control together?

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    @JulienLopez UK is not Schengen - I don't see how it could be a strict duplicate.

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I’m doing some travelling with my mate in a few weeks and I was wondering if, to save time, he could come through the Schengen border through the EU Line with me even though he is not a citizen?
I’m a dual Australian and Italian citizen, and he is an Australian citizen and has a 1 year residency visa (Italy).










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I’m doing some travelling with my mate in a few weeks and I was wondering if, to save time, he could come through the Schengen border through the EU Line with me even though he is not a citizen?
I’m a dual Australian and Italian citizen, and he is an Australian citizen and has a 1 year residency visa (Italy).










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I’m doing some travelling with my mate in a few weeks and I was wondering if, to save time, he could come through the Schengen border through the EU Line with me even though he is not a citizen?
I’m a dual Australian and Italian citizen, and he is an Australian citizen and has a 1 year residency visa (Italy).







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  • 2





    Possible duplicate of Which queue for a EU/non-EU couple travelling through UK Immigration Control together?

    – Julien Lopez
    yesterday






  • 4





    @JulienLopez UK is not Schengen - I don't see how it could be a strict duplicate.

    – Danny
    yesterday














  • 2





    Possible duplicate of Which queue for a EU/non-EU couple travelling through UK Immigration Control together?

    – Julien Lopez
    yesterday






  • 4





    @JulienLopez UK is not Schengen - I don't see how it could be a strict duplicate.

    – Danny
    yesterday








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Possible duplicate of Which queue for a EU/non-EU couple travelling through UK Immigration Control together?

– Julien Lopez
yesterday





Possible duplicate of Which queue for a EU/non-EU couple travelling through UK Immigration Control together?

– Julien Lopez
yesterday




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@JulienLopez UK is not Schengen - I don't see how it could be a strict duplicate.

– Danny
yesterday





@JulienLopez UK is not Schengen - I don't see how it could be a strict duplicate.

– Danny
yesterday










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Generally not. Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders, but other traveling companions are not (see articles 10(2) and 2(5) of the Schengen Borders Code).



You can of course accompany him in the "all passports" queue. While that won't save any time, it should at least be less boring and/or more convivial.






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  • The free movement directive only applies when you're entering a country that's not the country of your nationality. I.e. in this case it wouldn't apply to an Italian (and companions) entering Italy. So that can't be the official reason in every situation.

    – Erwin Bolwidt
    2 days ago











  • @ErwinBolwidt That's still the definition used in the Schengen Borders code.

    – Relaxed
    yesterday











  • "Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders" Do you have a reference for this? It could have saved a lot of time, but I had no idea ...

    – Szabolcs
    yesterday








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    @Szabolcs Schengen Borders Code, article 10(2), read in the context of the definition at Article 2(5). Also note 2(6), which excludes non-EU family members covered by the directive from the term "third-country national" for the purpose of the Schengen Borders Code. The Schengen Borders Code does not apply in the UK or Ireland, and because this rule is established in the SBC, not the directive, the UK and Ireland are not obliged to have a similar rule. But see the comment I'm about to leave on the other answer.

    – phoog
    yesterday








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    @Szabolcs as I understand it, in the UK such a family can go to the EU passports desk because the UK has a policy of not requiring families to separate. But I haven't ever seen that written anywhere, despite looking. I have no idea about Ireland. As to the countries that are officially Schengen candidates, I do not know whether they are bound by this part of the SBC, but I suppose that even if they are not, they follow it in practice.

    – phoog
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With a residency visa and accompanied by you it is worth a try, but no guarantees.



I've had this several times in Germany with my girlfriend, who has a non-european citizenship, but a residence permit. The first time we entered Germany together, I stood with her the "all passports" queue and when we finally came to the counter, the officer looked at us and asked why we hadn't gone to the "EU" line. Which after this we did and never had issues.



This may not be official policy, however.





Addendum:



A study details the differences of member states treatment of unmarried partnerships. For example, about Germany it writes:



"Germany [...] does not include common spouse partnerships and does therefore not seem to recognise the principle of durable relationship."






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  • The difference here of course US that your travel companion was your girlfriend, so possibly entitled to the benefit of the directive, although it's not clear that the officer was aware of that fact or reacting to it. In any event, practice appears to vary by country. I recall reading here about a married couple, where one had EU citizenship and the other did not, being sent to the all-passports desk in Italy after waiting in the EU passports line.

    – phoog
    yesterday











  • and had a residence permit

    – akostadinov
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov Official ruling is that people with residence permits must use the all passports queue, except if national law specifies otherwise. See here. Can't find any information whether that's the case with Germany.

    – Voo
    yesterday






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    @phoog no, "girlfriend" is a status with no legal meaning. Marriage is a different thing, legally speaking.

    – Tom
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov at that time she had a 1 year visa, just like the person in the question.

    – Tom
    yesterday












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Generally not. Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders, but other traveling companions are not (see articles 10(2) and 2(5) of the Schengen Borders Code).



You can of course accompany him in the "all passports" queue. While that won't save any time, it should at least be less boring and/or more convivial.






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  • The free movement directive only applies when you're entering a country that's not the country of your nationality. I.e. in this case it wouldn't apply to an Italian (and companions) entering Italy. So that can't be the official reason in every situation.

    – Erwin Bolwidt
    2 days ago











  • @ErwinBolwidt That's still the definition used in the Schengen Borders code.

    – Relaxed
    yesterday











  • "Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders" Do you have a reference for this? It could have saved a lot of time, but I had no idea ...

    – Szabolcs
    yesterday








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    @Szabolcs Schengen Borders Code, article 10(2), read in the context of the definition at Article 2(5). Also note 2(6), which excludes non-EU family members covered by the directive from the term "third-country national" for the purpose of the Schengen Borders Code. The Schengen Borders Code does not apply in the UK or Ireland, and because this rule is established in the SBC, not the directive, the UK and Ireland are not obliged to have a similar rule. But see the comment I'm about to leave on the other answer.

    – phoog
    yesterday








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    @Szabolcs as I understand it, in the UK such a family can go to the EU passports desk because the UK has a policy of not requiring families to separate. But I haven't ever seen that written anywhere, despite looking. I have no idea about Ireland. As to the countries that are officially Schengen candidates, I do not know whether they are bound by this part of the SBC, but I suppose that even if they are not, they follow it in practice.

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Generally not. Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders, but other traveling companions are not (see articles 10(2) and 2(5) of the Schengen Borders Code).



You can of course accompany him in the "all passports" queue. While that won't save any time, it should at least be less boring and/or more convivial.






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  • The free movement directive only applies when you're entering a country that's not the country of your nationality. I.e. in this case it wouldn't apply to an Italian (and companions) entering Italy. So that can't be the official reason in every situation.

    – Erwin Bolwidt
    2 days ago











  • @ErwinBolwidt That's still the definition used in the Schengen Borders code.

    – Relaxed
    yesterday











  • "Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders" Do you have a reference for this? It could have saved a lot of time, but I had no idea ...

    – Szabolcs
    yesterday








  • 5





    @Szabolcs Schengen Borders Code, article 10(2), read in the context of the definition at Article 2(5). Also note 2(6), which excludes non-EU family members covered by the directive from the term "third-country national" for the purpose of the Schengen Borders Code. The Schengen Borders Code does not apply in the UK or Ireland, and because this rule is established in the SBC, not the directive, the UK and Ireland are not obliged to have a similar rule. But see the comment I'm about to leave on the other answer.

    – phoog
    yesterday








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    @Szabolcs as I understand it, in the UK such a family can go to the EU passports desk because the UK has a policy of not requiring families to separate. But I haven't ever seen that written anywhere, despite looking. I have no idea about Ireland. As to the countries that are officially Schengen candidates, I do not know whether they are bound by this part of the SBC, but I suppose that even if they are not, they follow it in practice.

    – phoog
    yesterday
















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Generally not. Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders, but other traveling companions are not (see articles 10(2) and 2(5) of the Schengen Borders Code).



You can of course accompany him in the "all passports" queue. While that won't save any time, it should at least be less boring and/or more convivial.






share|improve this answer















Generally not. Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders, but other traveling companions are not (see articles 10(2) and 2(5) of the Schengen Borders Code).



You can of course accompany him in the "all passports" queue. While that won't save any time, it should at least be less boring and/or more convivial.







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  • The free movement directive only applies when you're entering a country that's not the country of your nationality. I.e. in this case it wouldn't apply to an Italian (and companions) entering Italy. So that can't be the official reason in every situation.

    – Erwin Bolwidt
    2 days ago











  • @ErwinBolwidt That's still the definition used in the Schengen Borders code.

    – Relaxed
    yesterday











  • "Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders" Do you have a reference for this? It could have saved a lot of time, but I had no idea ...

    – Szabolcs
    yesterday








  • 5





    @Szabolcs Schengen Borders Code, article 10(2), read in the context of the definition at Article 2(5). Also note 2(6), which excludes non-EU family members covered by the directive from the term "third-country national" for the purpose of the Schengen Borders Code. The Schengen Borders Code does not apply in the UK or Ireland, and because this rule is established in the SBC, not the directive, the UK and Ireland are not obliged to have a similar rule. But see the comment I'm about to leave on the other answer.

    – phoog
    yesterday








  • 3





    @Szabolcs as I understand it, in the UK such a family can go to the EU passports desk because the UK has a policy of not requiring families to separate. But I haven't ever seen that written anywhere, despite looking. I have no idea about Ireland. As to the countries that are officially Schengen candidates, I do not know whether they are bound by this part of the SBC, but I suppose that even if they are not, they follow it in practice.

    – phoog
    yesterday





















  • The free movement directive only applies when you're entering a country that's not the country of your nationality. I.e. in this case it wouldn't apply to an Italian (and companions) entering Italy. So that can't be the official reason in every situation.

    – Erwin Bolwidt
    2 days ago











  • @ErwinBolwidt That's still the definition used in the Schengen Borders code.

    – Relaxed
    yesterday











  • "Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders" Do you have a reference for this? It could have saved a lot of time, but I had no idea ...

    – Szabolcs
    yesterday








  • 5





    @Szabolcs Schengen Borders Code, article 10(2), read in the context of the definition at Article 2(5). Also note 2(6), which excludes non-EU family members covered by the directive from the term "third-country national" for the purpose of the Schengen Borders Code. The Schengen Borders Code does not apply in the UK or Ireland, and because this rule is established in the SBC, not the directive, the UK and Ireland are not obliged to have a similar rule. But see the comment I'm about to leave on the other answer.

    – phoog
    yesterday








  • 3





    @Szabolcs as I understand it, in the UK such a family can go to the EU passports desk because the UK has a policy of not requiring families to separate. But I haven't ever seen that written anywhere, despite looking. I have no idea about Ireland. As to the countries that are officially Schengen candidates, I do not know whether they are bound by this part of the SBC, but I suppose that even if they are not, they follow it in practice.

    – phoog
    yesterday



















The free movement directive only applies when you're entering a country that's not the country of your nationality. I.e. in this case it wouldn't apply to an Italian (and companions) entering Italy. So that can't be the official reason in every situation.

– Erwin Bolwidt
2 days ago





The free movement directive only applies when you're entering a country that's not the country of your nationality. I.e. in this case it wouldn't apply to an Italian (and companions) entering Italy. So that can't be the official reason in every situation.

– Erwin Bolwidt
2 days ago













@ErwinBolwidt That's still the definition used in the Schengen Borders code.

– Relaxed
yesterday





@ErwinBolwidt That's still the definition used in the Schengen Borders code.

– Relaxed
yesterday













"Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders" Do you have a reference for this? It could have saved a lot of time, but I had no idea ...

– Szabolcs
yesterday







"Non-EU citizens who are family members of EU citizens within the meaning of the free movement directive are entitled to use the EU passport lines at Schengen borders" Do you have a reference for this? It could have saved a lot of time, but I had no idea ...

– Szabolcs
yesterday






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@Szabolcs Schengen Borders Code, article 10(2), read in the context of the definition at Article 2(5). Also note 2(6), which excludes non-EU family members covered by the directive from the term "third-country national" for the purpose of the Schengen Borders Code. The Schengen Borders Code does not apply in the UK or Ireland, and because this rule is established in the SBC, not the directive, the UK and Ireland are not obliged to have a similar rule. But see the comment I'm about to leave on the other answer.

– phoog
yesterday







@Szabolcs Schengen Borders Code, article 10(2), read in the context of the definition at Article 2(5). Also note 2(6), which excludes non-EU family members covered by the directive from the term "third-country national" for the purpose of the Schengen Borders Code. The Schengen Borders Code does not apply in the UK or Ireland, and because this rule is established in the SBC, not the directive, the UK and Ireland are not obliged to have a similar rule. But see the comment I'm about to leave on the other answer.

– phoog
yesterday






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@Szabolcs as I understand it, in the UK such a family can go to the EU passports desk because the UK has a policy of not requiring families to separate. But I haven't ever seen that written anywhere, despite looking. I have no idea about Ireland. As to the countries that are officially Schengen candidates, I do not know whether they are bound by this part of the SBC, but I suppose that even if they are not, they follow it in practice.

– phoog
yesterday







@Szabolcs as I understand it, in the UK such a family can go to the EU passports desk because the UK has a policy of not requiring families to separate. But I haven't ever seen that written anywhere, despite looking. I have no idea about Ireland. As to the countries that are officially Schengen candidates, I do not know whether they are bound by this part of the SBC, but I suppose that even if they are not, they follow it in practice.

– phoog
yesterday















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With a residency visa and accompanied by you it is worth a try, but no guarantees.



I've had this several times in Germany with my girlfriend, who has a non-european citizenship, but a residence permit. The first time we entered Germany together, I stood with her the "all passports" queue and when we finally came to the counter, the officer looked at us and asked why we hadn't gone to the "EU" line. Which after this we did and never had issues.



This may not be official policy, however.





Addendum:



A study details the differences of member states treatment of unmarried partnerships. For example, about Germany it writes:



"Germany [...] does not include common spouse partnerships and does therefore not seem to recognise the principle of durable relationship."






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  • The difference here of course US that your travel companion was your girlfriend, so possibly entitled to the benefit of the directive, although it's not clear that the officer was aware of that fact or reacting to it. In any event, practice appears to vary by country. I recall reading here about a married couple, where one had EU citizenship and the other did not, being sent to the all-passports desk in Italy after waiting in the EU passports line.

    – phoog
    yesterday











  • and had a residence permit

    – akostadinov
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov Official ruling is that people with residence permits must use the all passports queue, except if national law specifies otherwise. See here. Can't find any information whether that's the case with Germany.

    – Voo
    yesterday






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    @phoog no, "girlfriend" is a status with no legal meaning. Marriage is a different thing, legally speaking.

    – Tom
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov at that time she had a 1 year visa, just like the person in the question.

    – Tom
    yesterday
















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With a residency visa and accompanied by you it is worth a try, but no guarantees.



I've had this several times in Germany with my girlfriend, who has a non-european citizenship, but a residence permit. The first time we entered Germany together, I stood with her the "all passports" queue and when we finally came to the counter, the officer looked at us and asked why we hadn't gone to the "EU" line. Which after this we did and never had issues.



This may not be official policy, however.





Addendum:



A study details the differences of member states treatment of unmarried partnerships. For example, about Germany it writes:



"Germany [...] does not include common spouse partnerships and does therefore not seem to recognise the principle of durable relationship."






share|improve this answer


























  • The difference here of course US that your travel companion was your girlfriend, so possibly entitled to the benefit of the directive, although it's not clear that the officer was aware of that fact or reacting to it. In any event, practice appears to vary by country. I recall reading here about a married couple, where one had EU citizenship and the other did not, being sent to the all-passports desk in Italy after waiting in the EU passports line.

    – phoog
    yesterday











  • and had a residence permit

    – akostadinov
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov Official ruling is that people with residence permits must use the all passports queue, except if national law specifies otherwise. See here. Can't find any information whether that's the case with Germany.

    – Voo
    yesterday






  • 1





    @phoog no, "girlfriend" is a status with no legal meaning. Marriage is a different thing, legally speaking.

    – Tom
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov at that time she had a 1 year visa, just like the person in the question.

    – Tom
    yesterday














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With a residency visa and accompanied by you it is worth a try, but no guarantees.



I've had this several times in Germany with my girlfriend, who has a non-european citizenship, but a residence permit. The first time we entered Germany together, I stood with her the "all passports" queue and when we finally came to the counter, the officer looked at us and asked why we hadn't gone to the "EU" line. Which after this we did and never had issues.



This may not be official policy, however.





Addendum:



A study details the differences of member states treatment of unmarried partnerships. For example, about Germany it writes:



"Germany [...] does not include common spouse partnerships and does therefore not seem to recognise the principle of durable relationship."






share|improve this answer















With a residency visa and accompanied by you it is worth a try, but no guarantees.



I've had this several times in Germany with my girlfriend, who has a non-european citizenship, but a residence permit. The first time we entered Germany together, I stood with her the "all passports" queue and when we finally came to the counter, the officer looked at us and asked why we hadn't gone to the "EU" line. Which after this we did and never had issues.



This may not be official policy, however.





Addendum:



A study details the differences of member states treatment of unmarried partnerships. For example, about Germany it writes:



"Germany [...] does not include common spouse partnerships and does therefore not seem to recognise the principle of durable relationship."







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  • The difference here of course US that your travel companion was your girlfriend, so possibly entitled to the benefit of the directive, although it's not clear that the officer was aware of that fact or reacting to it. In any event, practice appears to vary by country. I recall reading here about a married couple, where one had EU citizenship and the other did not, being sent to the all-passports desk in Italy after waiting in the EU passports line.

    – phoog
    yesterday











  • and had a residence permit

    – akostadinov
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov Official ruling is that people with residence permits must use the all passports queue, except if national law specifies otherwise. See here. Can't find any information whether that's the case with Germany.

    – Voo
    yesterday






  • 1





    @phoog no, "girlfriend" is a status with no legal meaning. Marriage is a different thing, legally speaking.

    – Tom
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov at that time she had a 1 year visa, just like the person in the question.

    – Tom
    yesterday



















  • The difference here of course US that your travel companion was your girlfriend, so possibly entitled to the benefit of the directive, although it's not clear that the officer was aware of that fact or reacting to it. In any event, practice appears to vary by country. I recall reading here about a married couple, where one had EU citizenship and the other did not, being sent to the all-passports desk in Italy after waiting in the EU passports line.

    – phoog
    yesterday











  • and had a residence permit

    – akostadinov
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov Official ruling is that people with residence permits must use the all passports queue, except if national law specifies otherwise. See here. Can't find any information whether that's the case with Germany.

    – Voo
    yesterday






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    @phoog no, "girlfriend" is a status with no legal meaning. Marriage is a different thing, legally speaking.

    – Tom
    yesterday











  • @akostadinov at that time she had a 1 year visa, just like the person in the question.

    – Tom
    yesterday

















The difference here of course US that your travel companion was your girlfriend, so possibly entitled to the benefit of the directive, although it's not clear that the officer was aware of that fact or reacting to it. In any event, practice appears to vary by country. I recall reading here about a married couple, where one had EU citizenship and the other did not, being sent to the all-passports desk in Italy after waiting in the EU passports line.

– phoog
yesterday





The difference here of course US that your travel companion was your girlfriend, so possibly entitled to the benefit of the directive, although it's not clear that the officer was aware of that fact or reacting to it. In any event, practice appears to vary by country. I recall reading here about a married couple, where one had EU citizenship and the other did not, being sent to the all-passports desk in Italy after waiting in the EU passports line.

– phoog
yesterday













and had a residence permit

– akostadinov
yesterday





and had a residence permit

– akostadinov
yesterday













@akostadinov Official ruling is that people with residence permits must use the all passports queue, except if national law specifies otherwise. See here. Can't find any information whether that's the case with Germany.

– Voo
yesterday





@akostadinov Official ruling is that people with residence permits must use the all passports queue, except if national law specifies otherwise. See here. Can't find any information whether that's the case with Germany.

– Voo
yesterday




1




1





@phoog no, "girlfriend" is a status with no legal meaning. Marriage is a different thing, legally speaking.

– Tom
yesterday





@phoog no, "girlfriend" is a status with no legal meaning. Marriage is a different thing, legally speaking.

– Tom
yesterday













@akostadinov at that time she had a 1 year visa, just like the person in the question.

– Tom
yesterday





@akostadinov at that time she had a 1 year visa, just like the person in the question.

– Tom
yesterday










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